Came in low on fuel, throttle went nuts, up and own

[Ramstein]

was coming in for landing, very low on fuel,, throttle starting going up and down like crazy...just a millisecond after touchdown, throttle kept going up and down, could not stop... before I went too low on fuel, and before touchdown, all was fine... I just had enough to land, engines where still running... but went wild up and down...

,, blew through the end of the runway with my throttle set to off..

no way in hell I could stop it..

 

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I don't understand, why would the thottle go up and down by itself??

[MTFDarkEagle]

Best to check your throttle isn't generating potspikes.

[Ramstein]

Best to check your throttle isn't generating potspikes.

 

 

I fly lots of other flight sims, only A-10C gives me these wierd problems...

IL-2 COD, IL-2, Black Shark, do not do these wierd things..

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[MTFDarkEagle]

Track?

[Ramstein]

sorry, wasn't thinking about Track making.. not sure what I can do now... guess I have to wait until I fly again and see if it happens..

 

I did find a track in my user folder in Win7 from the flight.. but it's probably to big to post here..

I will try to post..

 

btw,, do these controls do something to engine management when fuel gets down to some low level ?

 

Left Engine Oper Ign / Norm Engine Control Panel

Left Engine Oper Motor Engine Control Panel

Left Engine Oper Norm Engine Control Panel

Right Engine Oper Ign / Norm Engine Control Panel

Right Engine Oper Motor Engine Control Panel

Right Engine Oper Norm Engine Control Panel

Left Engine Fuel Flow Norm/Override Engine Control Panel

Left Engine Fuel Flow Norm/Override Engine Control Panel

Right Engine Fuel Flow Norm/Override Engine Control Panel

Right Engine Fuel Flow Norm/Override Engine Control Panel

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** I removed the file because it would not work as a trak... I have no idea why I can't make a trak, gotta learn how I guess..

Edited February 4, 2012 by Ramstein

[Speed]

I believe I have this happen to me like one in fifty flights. My problem is that the throttle will increase by itself. If I move the physical throttle slightly, the virtual throttle will go back to its proper position, but in a matter of about 4 secs it will slowly go to max power. It seems that it is some sort of bug; solely restarting DCS and not messing with the throttle settings will fix it. I can't remember if plugging and unplugging the stick will fix it or not; my guess would be no.

 

IIRC, I may have even had the problem in reverse, where the throttle will decrease by itself.

 

What is your stick Ramstein? Mine is an Saitek X-65.

Edited February 3, 2012 by Speed

[zipdigital]

Do you have "Synchronize Throttle at mission start" enabled in the options?

 

I use an X-45 and find this causes problems for me. Not only at mission start either, sometimes it goes haywire randomly throughout my attempts at campaign missions. I don't think it is A-10C, I assume it is just an oddity of my X-45.

 

But to be honest, I usually get shot down well before I am low on fuel. :)

[Ramstein]

I have these files, traks, but I can't seem to play them back, it has been a long time since I worked with traks.. I am looking for instructions on taking a mission, and seeing if it can be played back as a track, when I load these traks, they don't play back.. so maybe you must immediately save them as traks when the mission ends?

 

are there instructions here, maybe in the FAQ's, I looked in oneo fhte flight manuals, and it wasn't in there, still looking.

[636_Castle]

For what it's worth, I've experienced control issues in mid-flight too. Took off, flew the mission, then the stick would have a mind of it's own. Full forward deflection, pushing forward would pull the stick back to center. Completely corrupt controls, while the Saitek control panel showed completely normal readings.

[soupyc]

I've also had similar issues, primarily with stick deflection. I seem to have nailed it down though to my shifted trim button sticking and the arrow part of the command still going through to DCS, and causing the stick to deflect. I've since removed all keyboard commands for axis commands, and it seems to have resolved the issue.

[Rainbowed]

this crazy throttle thing happens to me too. forced me to close the whole thing and restart my computer. Not too often though, about 5% of the time.

 

Starts beautifully, and in the middle of my flight, throttles goes crazy, sometimes I will have keep moving my physical throttle to just make my virtual throttle "follow"my inputs. Can hardly make it back to the base.

 

Thought it was a problem with my Logitech G940 throttle, but after check, it was normal. so this problem kind puzzled me all the time. Now it seems it is something with DCS program itself.

[zipdigital]

Perhaps there are other ways, but the only way I know to save a track is that when the mission ends there is a "save track" button. If I remember correctly it asks where to save the track. Once you save the track there is an option in the main menu, "replays" I think. This should allow you to navigate to the track and replay it.

 

More experienced members may be able to explain this better.

[Ramstein]

ok, I took the cable from my saitek throttle and I didn't have any dialectric grease... so I took WD-40 and sprayed the end of each cable cleaned the excess, and plugged the ends back into the stick and throttle, I think it's fixed.

 

The erratic behavior is fixed for the most part.. funny how It didn't freak out in my other flight sims..

 

once in a while I will press some buttons that screws something up, and the thottle jumps forwards, but must be a bad combination of key presses from my stick commands,, but that problem will be another things to look for later.. again, for the most part, no more throttle jumping up and down for now..

 

the Saitek stuff just turns junky after a few years..

 

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[Tornado_Pilot]

Hey Ramstein, nice Approach on cleaning the plugs, but NOT with WD 40.

 

Once the lube dries, it will be a mess to get that thing clean again.

 

I recommend you to get a proper contact lubricant or, way better, to have the plugs and cables checked.

 

Maybe, some of the fine and thin wires inside are broken and are causing spikes whice may lead to erratic behaviour.

[Ramstein]

Hey Ramstein, nice Approach on cleaning the plugs, but NOT with WD 40.

 

Once the lube dries, it will be a mess to get that thing clean again.

 

I recommend you to get a proper contact lubricant or, way better, to have the plugs and cables checked.

 

Maybe, some of the fine and thin wires inside are broken and are causing spikes whice may lead to erratic behaviour.

 

 

 

Yes, , but I do have a bunch of cables in storage... I have collected over the years, unfortunately, Saitek used a bastard cable... so my extra spares are the wrong pins.... I have to find a new cable, and hope it's the cable and not the plugs... not sure if they have these cables at the stores, online, etc...

Saitek should send people out new cables when their cables crap out... even if it were for a few dollars...

the wd-40 is safer than a lubricant, because is really a water displacer, where most lubes actually leave petroleum...

 

but a dialectic grease (tube) is best..

Edited February 4, 2012 by Ramstein

[Ramstein]

so far, it's ok, but I found when I am using Team Speak and tars, and changing radio settings, sometimes my throttle will jump, and if on the ground it go wide open and it won't shut down... the crash.. as if some control is hit by some key combination, and it locks the throttle open,,

I have decdied that the only way to fly A-10C successfully, would be to buy the Warthog stick... trying to program the Saitek with this is just too much B.S...

 

Unless you get it perfect, there are to many glitches , imperfections, and if the stick has a couple years use, then there are many glitches... and A-10C is extremely sensative to spikes from the Hotas input..

 

It seems the WWII sims a much less complicated and a glitch doesn't screw up your flying like in A-10C..

 

I don't even have these glitches as much in Black Shark...

 

so, if and when I get my money.. or die first... it's gotta be a new stick for this sim, and when the new flighter (secret one that they won't tell us...) it will probably need a special stick too..

 

MY Saitek has been good, but think it should have lasted longer, it could be just the cable between the throttle and stick... as I doubt the ends are gold plated... or the pots, or.. whatever..

 

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