Graphics at max and perfect, but spinning jerky clouds?

[morgon]

I have a cloud problem in black shark 2 (dcs download) and a10c (steam download), graphics are beautiful and smooth as can be (all at full/max) but the clouds then remind me it's a game as they act so odd and unreal, when I fly towards a cloud it slowly jerkingly rotates then the closer you get the jerky rotating outer part of clouds vanishes then your left with a amazing smooth cloud effect which is how it should be. So what's with this outer layer of cloud? Anyone experience this

 

I have tried lowering graphics and still happens but like I say game runs perfect and with no stuttering on full graphics and shadows and cockpit on 1256 bit but these damn clouds are ruining the realism for me :cry:

 

Will be grateful for help on this thanks guys :thumbup:

[Hamblue]

What are your system specs? CPU, Motherboard, Ram, Video Card, monitor setup, resolution, frame rate, etc?

[morgon]

Windows 7 64bit

phenom ll x4 965 processor @4.1ghz

8gb ram

Asus crosshairs lV formula mother board

Sapphire radon 6870 1gb toxic graphic card

Liquid cooled system

 

Running on 1920x1080 @60hz 50"plasma

 

Sorry not very pc literate but that's what I know it has

 

When doing cntl and pause to bring up in game Fps it flicks between 59-62 Fps

 

The Game graphics are amazing is just the clouds acting odd, nothing else jumps or flickers, have tried lowering settings and makes no difference

 

All setting on high apart from view distance, clutter bar is half way up same with below bar

Edited May 6, 2012 by morgon

[Nate--IRL--]

The clouds are bugged - it is very annoying.

 

Nate

[morgon]

So you have this to? And yes it's very annoying as the game looks so real but then a rotating jerking cloud kinda makes it not is so strange how the outer cloud layer just vanishes then you have this amazing looking cloud just like it should be

[Nate--IRL--]

Hmm rotating clouds - I don't have that - could you upload a short vid to youtube?

 

Nate

[morgon]

I wouldn't know where to start to uploading it yet alone recording it lol if you can visualise your heading towards a cloud it starts firstly jerking towards you then the rotate comes and as you get closer the outer layer just vanishes then your left with the large inners of the cloud that look astonishing, sorry it's not much help but this is how it looks lol

[Harzach]

I just made a quick video showing both the "skipping" and "spinning":

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2djqACJnbE

 

The "skipping" is clear at the very beginning, at about 11 o'clock. Sort of a laggy draw-in issue, even though everything else is rendering smoothly.

 

The spinning is clear toward the end, right after I zoom back in at 1:25.

Edited May 7, 2012 by Harzach

[Nate--IRL--]

Many thanks - I've not seen the spinning issue before.

 

The Skipping was actually a design feature to save FPS in the Early Lock on days - probably not required any longer.

 

EDIT:- That said - I'm not seeing either behaviour myself - Odd - there are however other problems with the clouds.

 

Nate

Edited May 7, 2012 by Nate--IRL--

[morgon]

I just made a quick video showing both the "skipping" and "spinning":

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2djqACJnbE

 

The "skipping" is clear at the very beginning, at about 11 o'clock. Sort of a laggy draw-in issue, even though everything else is rendering smoothly.

 

The spinning is clear toward the end, right after I zoom back in at 1:25.

 

 

Exactly what I have, also see on your vid that the outer layer of cloud that seems to spin and flicker completely disappears once your closer to cloud (00:10) I wonder if there is a way to remove the outer cloud graphics or if anyone can find a fix for this bug

Edited May 7, 2012 by morgon

[MagnumHB]

I've also seen a sort of midget cloud that seems like it hasn't fully expanded to its proper level of fluffiness. I realize this isn't the most technical description, but it's fairly odd. It doesn't happen that much, but I'll try and get a screenshot next time I see it.

[Nate--IRL--]

I've also seen a sort of midget cloud that seems like it hasn't fully expanded to its proper level of fluffiness. I realize this isn't the most technical description, but it's fairly odd. It doesn't happen that much, but I'll try and get a screenshot next time I see it.

 

Happens with Dynamic weather. IIRC.

 

Nate

[AtaliaA1]

I was reading a review and I came across this information and it made me think of this post. Take a look, potential causitive factor? What do you guys think?

 

 

Adaptive Vsync

In the process of eliminating screen tearing NVIDIA will now implement adaptive VSYNC in their drivers.

VSync is the synchronization of your graphics card and monitor's abilities to redraw the screen a number of times each second (measured in FPS or Hz). It is an unfortunate fact that if you disable VSync, your graphics card and monitor will inevitably go out of synch. Whenever your FPS exceeds the refresh rate (e.g. 120 FPS on a 60Hz screen), and that causes screen tearing. The precise visual impact of tearing differs depending on just how much your graphics card and monitor go out of sync, but usually the higher your FPS and/or the faster your movements are in a game - such as rapidly turning around - the more noticeable it becomes.

Adaptive VSYNC is going to help you out on this matter. So While normal VSYNC addresses the tearing issue when frame rates are high, VSYNC introduces another problem : stuttering. The stuttering occurs when frame rates drop below 60 frames per second causing VSYNC to revert to 30Hz and other multiples of 60 such as 20 or even 15 Hz.

To deal with this issue NVIDIA has applied a solution called Adaptive VSync. In the series 300 drivers the feature will be integrated, minimizing that stuttering effect. When the frame rate drops below 60 FPS, the adaptive VSYNC technology automatically disables VSYNC allowing frame rates to run at that natural state, effectively reducing stutter. Once framerates return to 60 FPS Adaptive VSync turns VSYNC back on to reduce tearing.

Edited May 8, 2012 by AtaliaA1

[Harzach]

AtaliaA1 -

 

I don't see how v-sync could have anything to do with this. Besides, I had v-sync enabled.

[morgon]

AtaliaA1 -

 

I don't see how v-sync could have anything to do with this. Besides, I had v-sync enabled.

 

same here, but thanks for the input none the less atalia :thumbup:

[AtaliaA1]

Stuttering and Glitches

 

AtaliaA1 -

 

I don't see how v-sync could have anything to do with this. Besides, I had v-sync enabled.

 

Re-read the article having Vsync inable or disabled isn't germain. Creation of a program that comes into play when stuttering occurs is the motivation behind the creation of this software implementation.

 

 

But if you feel they are waisting their time then you are of course allowed that opinion.

[Harzach]

Re-read the article having Vsync inable or disabled isn't germain. Creation of a program that comes into play when stuttering occurs is the motivation behind the creation of this software implementation.

 

 

But if you feel they are waisting their time then you are of course allowed that opinion.

 

I read the article. This isn't about stuttering. This is about anomalous behavior of clouds only.

 

That said, if stuttering was the issue, the question of whether v-sync was enabled or disabled would most definitely be germane. V-sync can cause stuttering. Nvidia's "Adaptive v-sync" looks to mitigate that stuttering. If v-sync is not enabled, then clearly it would not be causing any stuttering in the first place.

[AtaliaA1]

Harzach? What is the causitive factor behind the enomoly? In your opinion then. And what is the bases of your idea pertaining to language and hardware?

[Jalen]

Wow, I have to run this game on high textures and medium everything else and only get 35 fps at airports sometimes even 24fps, I have 8gbddr3 ram and the exact same card as yours Sapphire 1gb radeon HD 6870, it just shows how cpu intesive this game is. my cpu is a quad core and I only get 2.8ghz from my cpu. Sorry this was irrelevant but I am glad to know the problem is my CPU.

[Harzach]

Harzach? What is the causitive factor behind the enomoly? In your opinion then. And what is the bases of your idea pertaining to language and hardware?

 

Relax!

 

You brought up v-sync, I said I don't see the connection. As for the cause of the issue at hand, I clearly have no idea.

[Speed]

I've also seen a sort of midget cloud that seems like it hasn't fully expanded to its proper level of fluffiness. I realize this isn't the most technical description, but it's fairly odd. It doesn't happen that much, but I'll try and get a screenshot next time I see it.

 

If you stop and watch the little baby cloud, you can actually watch it grow up to become a big, adult cloud over the course of a few minutes. Like Nate said, dynamic weather.

[morgon]

Well I have tried lots of different things even lowering graphics and just trying different mixes of settings and turning v-sync on off, I have nothing running in background and tbh the game on high settings and full isnt even putting stress on pc as checked out pc-monitor app I have installed when game was running and no signs of struggling on hardware. I read somewhere that people have capped their Fps to 30 but can't see this stopping the error and unsure how to do this anyway. so I guess those of us who do have this prob will have to live with it until its figured out by the designers, which would be good but as for now I'm busy looking around cockpit learning the hundreds of switches lol

[Nate--IRL--]

Just before we write this one off - could some body post a short track illustrating this behaviour?

 

Nate

[morgon]

Just before we write this one off - could some body post a short track illustrating this behaviour?

 

Nate

 

On page 1 of this thread harzach posted a clip that matches my cloud issue.

[Nate--IRL--]

I have seen that, I'm aware of what the problem is - however a track would help me replicate it - if I can at all.

 

Nate