Bullseye vs Initial Position?

[SharpeXB]

Is there a difference between the "Bullseye" and "Initial Position"?

On the TAD the Initial position is shown as waypoint 0 and has a bullseye symbol.

Which one do you use on the offset page for entering coordinates to find targets called out to you? The radio calls are "Tally armor at bulls 012 217" ect

[BIGNEWY]

Bullseye can be anywhere on the map its a ref. point for all aircraft to give coordinates from.

 

Initial position is where you started from

 

Which one do you use on the offset page for entering coordinates to find targets called out to you? The radio calls are "Tally armor at bulls 012 217" ect

 

in this example you would use offset to bullseye as it says :)

Edited July 9, 2012 by BIGNEWY

[SharpeXB]

Bullseye can be anywhere on the map its a ref. point for all aircraft to give coordinates from.

 

Initial position is where you started from

 

 

 

in this example you would use offset to bullseye as it says :)

Sometimes they call out coordinates without saying "bulls"

Do you still use the Bullseye?

[BRooDJeRo]

What is meant is not THE bullseye, but A bulleye. The bullseye on the mission is mainly to indicate which side is blue and which red aprox. In most cases it doesnt have more function than that.

[PhoenixBvo]

Uhhmm BRooDJeRo, what you're saying might in this context be characterized as bullsh#t ;). There is only one bullseye per side and its function is, as mentioned, to relate all bearing/distance calls to (unless explicitly stated otherwise).

That way everyone knows immediately where to look without checking your position and you don't give away your own position to possible eavesdroppers. Those functions are vital, I would say. And actually present in any realistic mission.

 

In the sim (as in RL), you don't have a bullseye from the other side, so its uses to indicate where the enemy is, don't make sense to me.

Edited July 9, 2012 by PhoenixBvo

[BIGNEWY]

Sometimes they call out coordinates without saying "bulls"

Do you still use the Bullseye?

 

 

when jtac ( or whoever) is giving coordinates without calling bullseye, it is just that coordinates, enter them in your cdu, there is no offset then.

[SharpeXB]

when jtac ( or whoever) is giving coordinates without calling bullseye, it is just that coordinates, enter them in your cdu, there is no offset then.

Yes I understand that. I'm referring to the radio calls that give you bearing and distance. From the above reply I get that these always are from the bullseye whether they say "bulls" or not.

[BIGNEWY]

take a look at this tutorial, it will help i think.

 

 

various offset situations explained

 

I would assume if they are giving a bearing and range it would be a bullseye ref. unless otherwise stated.

[BRooDJeRo]

Uhhmm BRooDJeRo, what you're saying might in this context be characterized as bullsh#t ;). There is only one bullseye per side and its function is, as mentioned, to relate all bearing/distance calls to (unless explicitly stated otherwise).

That way everyone knows immediately where to look without checking your position and you don't give away your own position to possible eavesdroppers. Those functions are vital, I would say. And actually present in any realistic mission.

 

In the sim (as in RL), you don't have a bullseye from the other side, so its uses to indicate where the enemy is, don't make sense to me.

 

You sir, are correct. Im all about BS. :D However, remember the context of the question and how you describe it, is axactly how i see and mean it. I didn't mean to put a finger on something the way i said it.

When i first played DCS i had the same idea about the bulleye as the top poster has. I undersand this man perfectly.