redfish Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Quick question regarding a units ROE and STATE tags in the mission editor. Does ROE have a higher priority than STATE? Does ROE override a units STATE? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] AEF 161 Squadron CO ~~~ My YouTube Channel ~~~ "We struck down evil with the mighty sword of teamwork and the hammer of not bickering." The Shoveller ... Mystery Men
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) EDIT2:- I'm not sure I'll have to check it again. Nate Edited July 10, 2012 by Nate--IRL-- Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Grimes Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 My understanding is that ROE and State operate independently but serve a similar purpose. State = On/Off state of the sensors AI use ROE = Rules to attack If a sensor is required for the unit to attack (radar SAM sites) then it will be unable to attack if the sensor is off. If the sensor is on but the ROE says it can't attack, then the radar will emit but won't attack. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 My understanding is that ROE and State operate independently but serve a similar purpose. State = On/Off state of the sensors AI use ROE = Rules to attack If a sensor is required for the unit to attack (radar SAM sites) then it will be unable to attack if the sensor is off. If the sensor is on but the ROE says it can't attack, then the radar will emit but won't attack. However IIRC the State will change from Green to Red upon contact with the enemy. This change in state takes the appropriate amount of time for the vehicle involved. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Grimes Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Depends if its on AUTO or not. I think its forced to whichever setting if its not on Auto. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Ahh yes, I'd forgotten about that. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
JCamel Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Alarm State Sets the combat readiness state of the group. GREEN – group is not combat ready. It does not perform target search or engagement and maintains sensors off and stowed if possible. RED – group is combat ready and actively searching for targets. Depending on the unit, it may or may not be able to move while in combat ready state. AUTO – default setting, where the group is not combat ready until the presence of enemy units is detected. Note, the AI may "sense" the presence of enemy units without actually detecting them with own sensors. Alarm state is separate to ROE. ROE tells the unit if it can fire, who it can fire on, and, if a target is selected, who it should fire on first. ROE (Rules of Engagement) Set fire rules to determine the group's combat behavior when encountering enemy units. WEAPONS FREE – engage any enemy group in contact. Target prioritization is performed automatically by the group based on the situation. RETURN FIRE – return fire only; do not engage first. WEAPONS HOLD – do not fire under any circumstances. Additionally: Open fire, Weapons free – engage any enemy groups in contact. However, the enemy group designated as the target for the action will be the primary target and engaged first. Once the primary target is destroyed, further target prioritization is performed automatically by the group based on the situation. Open fire – engage only the enemy group designated as the target for the action. If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
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