112th_Rossi Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 I suspect some already knew this but this is the first time I saw it being official Q: About that remote, dedicated server capability... We're tired of trying to explain why we can't host a dedicated server for DCS. One word: when? Matt: This is something currently in development and we have been taking input from outside parties. It has taken longer than we had wished, but hope the end result will be worth the wait. Source: http://simhq.com/_air13/air_479a.html I wonder what features will be in store? Can't wait for it though, probably the biggest step for the game imo.
Double_D Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 I suspect some already knew this but this is the first time I saw it being official Source: http://simhq.com/_air13/air_479a.html I wonder what features will be in store? Can't wait for it though, probably the biggest step for the game imo. Dedicated Server's...it will be world breaking...for the DCSFlight Sim Communities..:thumbup: So the phrase " Build it, they will come " [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel
Rhinox Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 ...probably the biggest step for the game imo. Definitely. I expect number of on-line servers increasing rapidly. So far the only way how to bring your own DCS/LO server is... to assemble one. Very rarely can you lease server in hosting companies, because what they offer usually lacks any graphics (which is absolutelly correct, a server should not have any graphics, be it windows or X11). Command-line (or web-browser) controlled dedicated server for DCS/LO (maybe linux version) is something I'm dreaming of. And is the thing this game is missing badly...
112th_Rossi Posted July 23, 2012 Author Posted July 23, 2012 It also opens the possibility of persistant missions with many more players. I can see whole communities growing around servers.
ED Team NineLine Posted July 23, 2012 ED Team Posted July 23, 2012 Yeah, this will be a huge step forward when we get this... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
houdini382 Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 best practice when running dedicated server Hello fellas, Houdini here. So, correct me if I'm wrong. Back in FC2/BS, and due to instability of using the hosting server to play, I decided (like the rest of the community) to host the server on one computer and fly on another computer. It worked perfect back then. With BS2, now you have to login to enter multiplayer mode. So the fact that you have a couple of computers with activated software doesn't matter now, since the account is the same and you can't login twice. I already have BS2 and I'm thinking about hosting missions on one of my computers while I fly on the other, like the old times. So this is my plan: I purchase DCS world on a different account and I Install it on my "server" while I use my regular account (BS2) to fly on my other computer. Is this possible? Can I host missions with only DCS world installed on one computer? I opened a ticket like 8 months ago complaining about zero functionality with virtual computers. I was planning to host a server on a VM and I couldn't. DCS stated they didn't provide functionality for VMs. Then I took the opportunity and told them to start thinking about a dedicated server. I guess they are working on it now. Good. Thanks DCS! :thumbup:. Is it too much to ask that you make it VM friendly? Thanks in advance! Thanks for your answers, guys. Houd. P.S. I still see the day when "DCS Longbow Apache" populates all the flightsimmer's computers, and we all rejoice. :smilewink:. P.S.2 A special "hello" to Master Panzertard. Thanks for your hard work with servman, dude! :thumbup: My Rig: - Intel Core i7-2600K CPU 3.40 GHz Sandy Bridge. Thermaltake FRIO CPU cooling system. 16 Gb. DDR3 Corsair Vengeance RAM memory. NVIDIA GForce GTX 580. 1.5 Gb DDR5 Video Card. Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi 7.1 Dolby Surround Audio Card and Creative 7.1 speakers system. 1 Tb primary HD and 500 Gb backup HD. Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case. Cooler Master 850W power supply. U-Verse 18 Mbps Internet Fiber. CH Products Fighterstick USB joystick. Rig: - Intel Core i7-2600K CPU 3.40 GHz Sandy Bridge. - Thermaltake FRIO CPU cooling system. - 16 Gb. DDR3 Corsair Vengeance RAM memory. - NVIDIA GForce. 4 Gb DDR5 Video Card. - Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 5RX 7.1 Dolby Surround Audio Card and Creative 7.1 speakers system. - 1 Tb Solid State primary HD and 500 Gb backup HD. - Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case. - Cooler Master 850W power supply. - Xfinity 200 Mbps Internet. - Warthog HOTAS.
GGTharos Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Hello fellas, Houdini here. So, correct me if I'm wrong. [snip] So this is my plan: I purchase DCS world on a different account and I Install it on my "server" while I use my regular account (BS2) to fly on my other computer. Is this possible? Can I host missions with only DCS world installed on one computer? Good question. DCSW cannot run online games; you need to have at least one activated module to play MP. I opened a ticket like 8 months ago complaining about zero functionality with virtual computers. I was planning to host a server on a VM and I couldn't. DCS stated they didn't provide functionality for VMs. Then I took the opportunity and told them to start thinking about a dedicated server. I guess they are working on it now. Good. Thanks DCS! :thumbup:. Is it too much to ask that you make it VM friendly? Thanks in advance! Making it VM friendly will make it easy to circumvent the CP. Besides that, I'm not convinced you'd get reasonable performance hosting this on a VM. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
houdini382 Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Hey Tharos. Well, a good practice is to run your server with lowest details and resolution. So you focus on performance, since you are not using that computer for actually flying. Theory says that, if you do this, you are not asking too much to the VM graphics engine, it should work. :huh: Rig: - Intel Core i7-2600K CPU 3.40 GHz Sandy Bridge. - Thermaltake FRIO CPU cooling system. - 16 Gb. DDR3 Corsair Vengeance RAM memory. - NVIDIA GForce. 4 Gb DDR5 Video Card. - Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 5RX 7.1 Dolby Surround Audio Card and Creative 7.1 speakers system. - 1 Tb Solid State primary HD and 500 Gb backup HD. - Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case. - Cooler Master 850W power supply. - Xfinity 200 Mbps Internet. - Warthog HOTAS.
ED Team NineLine Posted July 26, 2012 ED Team Posted July 26, 2012 Hey Tharos. Well, a good practice is to run your server with lowest details and resolution. So you focus on performance, since you are not using that computer for actually flying. Theory says that, if you do this, you are not asking too much to the VM graphics engine, it should work. :huh: I would hope that a dedi server wouldnt need any graphical settings at all anyways.... they already added an option with older versions of A-10 to disable graphics for hosting didnt they? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
GGTharos Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 No, that isn't it; graphics aside, you don't know who you're sharing your VM's physical processor with. You may suddenly find yourself with no CPU cycles. I would always prefer a physical box for hosting a game. Hey Tharos. Well, a good practice is to run your server with lowest details and resolution. So you focus on performance, since you are not using that computer for actually flying. Theory says that, if you do this, you are not asking too much to the VM graphics engine, it should work. :huh: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
houdini382 Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 I would hope that a dedi server wouldnt need any graphical settings at all anyways.... they already added an option with older versions of A-10 to disable graphics for hosting didnt they? I'm not sure about the A-10 graphics, but yes, this would be ideal. Rig: - Intel Core i7-2600K CPU 3.40 GHz Sandy Bridge. - Thermaltake FRIO CPU cooling system. - 16 Gb. DDR3 Corsair Vengeance RAM memory. - NVIDIA GForce. 4 Gb DDR5 Video Card. - Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 5RX 7.1 Dolby Surround Audio Card and Creative 7.1 speakers system. - 1 Tb Solid State primary HD and 500 Gb backup HD. - Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case. - Cooler Master 850W power supply. - Xfinity 200 Mbps Internet. - Warthog HOTAS.
houdini382 Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Yes, A dedicated box is always best. In my particular case, I had a very powerful physical server hosting dormant VM servers (I'm a system admin ;) ). I was going to borrow some resources to host another VM working as a DCS server. A way to balance the CPU priority on VMWare is to play with your shares on your VM. To do this: run your Vcenter and connect to your ESX box. Right click on the VM you want to adjust and select "edit settings", go to the resources tab and select High priority on your CPU shares. CPUs with higher shares will have more attention from the physical CPU. Let's hope DCS comes with a dedicated server... Rig: - Intel Core i7-2600K CPU 3.40 GHz Sandy Bridge. - Thermaltake FRIO CPU cooling system. - 16 Gb. DDR3 Corsair Vengeance RAM memory. - NVIDIA GForce. 4 Gb DDR5 Video Card. - Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 5RX 7.1 Dolby Surround Audio Card and Creative 7.1 speakers system. - 1 Tb Solid State primary HD and 500 Gb backup HD. - Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case. - Cooler Master 850W power supply. - Xfinity 200 Mbps Internet. - Warthog HOTAS.
GGTharos Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 That's great, but most people don't have access to such resources. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
houdini382 Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Yes, that is also correct. :) Rig: - Intel Core i7-2600K CPU 3.40 GHz Sandy Bridge. - Thermaltake FRIO CPU cooling system. - 16 Gb. DDR3 Corsair Vengeance RAM memory. - NVIDIA GForce. 4 Gb DDR5 Video Card. - Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 5RX 7.1 Dolby Surround Audio Card and Creative 7.1 speakers system. - 1 Tb Solid State primary HD and 500 Gb backup HD. - Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case. - Cooler Master 850W power supply. - Xfinity 200 Mbps Internet. - Warthog HOTAS.
BRooDJeRo Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 An AMD X2 x64 runs fine too as a server with 4k-6k MB RAM and a low GFX card with settings slimmed down everywhere. When the server is up you can go to the F10 map to reduced graphics load. Theres enough systemsresources to run ts and a http server with it without trouble. Cost: used old spare parts out of the closet
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