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[Teknetinium]

EOS bug not sorted yet

[BlackPixxel]

Missiles perform really well, and a fix of the radar ranges was a very pleasant supruse!!

 

Thanks alot!

 

Unfortunately the radar/OLS transition fix did not make it in the update, maybe you can add it in case there is a hotfix in a few days.

Edited April 14, 2021 by BlackPixxel

[dundun92]

7 minutes ago, BlackPixxel said:

fix of the radar ranges

ARe you referring to the F-18? Or did any of the FC3 jets get any changes

[BlackPixxel]

1 minute ago, dundun92 said:

ARe you referring to the F-18? Or did any of the FC3 jets get any changes

 

Both!

 

I did not try the F-15 (I don't know what ranges it had pre-patch), but the other FC3 aircraft got changed!

[TotenDead]

4 минуты назад, BlackPixxel сказал:

 

Both!

 

I did not try the F-15 (I don't know what ranges it had pre-patch), but the other FC3 aircraft got changed!

Что, МиГ-29 больше не слепой котенок? 

[BlackPixxel]

8 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

Что, МиГ-29 больше не слепой котенок? 

 

It still is, but lookdown is now according to the manual.

Quite a good improvement!

 

Still no difference between 29A and 29S though.

Edited April 14, 2021 by BlackPixxel

[nighthawk2174]

@ChizhThe 27ER/ET got new motor values but for the boost stage its current values are 54945N (~12,350lbs) of thrust for 2 seconds with a mass flow rate of 13.83.  This yields an ISP value of ~404s, which is well above the theoretical maximum limit of the modern smokeless propellant of the C5 which should peak out around the 255s-265s range.  While older generations of missiles, such as the AIM-7, are in the 230s-245s range.  A value of 23.83kg/s would make a lot more sense, as such is it a typo?

Edited April 14, 2021 by nighthawk2174

[dundun92]

1 minute ago, nighthawk2174 said:

@ChizhThe 27ER/ET got new motor values but for the boost stage its current values are 54945N (~12,350lbs) of thrust for 2 seconds with a mass flow rate of 13.83.  This yields an ISP value of ~404s, which is well above the theoretical maximum limit of the modern smokeless propellant of the C5 which should peak out around the 255s-265s range.  While older generations of missiles, such as the AIM-7, are in the 230s-245s range.  A value of 23.83kg/s would make a lot more sense, as such is it a typo?

 

howd you get the mass flow numbers? I cant find the missiles_data.lua file anymore.

[nighthawk2174]

Just now, dundun92 said:

howd you get the mass flow numbers? I cant find the missiles_data.lua file anymore.

It's still in my database/weapons folder odd

Edited April 14, 2021 by nighthawk2174

[dundun92]

2 minutes ago, nighthawk2174 said:

It's still in my database/weapons folder odd

 

??????????

 

Another squadron member also confimed its missing for him, even after a repair... this really is weird

Edited April 14, 2021 by dundun92

[nighthawk2174]

16 minutes ago, dundun92 said:

??????????

 

Another squadron member also confimed its missing for him... this really is weird

interesting I just updated as per normal guess it didn't remove them for me?

Edit:

yeah they just weren't removed for me and a few of them got scrambled for some reason.  So ignore my last post.

Edited April 14, 2021 by nighthawk2174

[Breakshot]

Can we confirm the EO bug still not fixed for ER behaviour?

Отправлено с моего STV100-2 через Tapatalk

[BlackPixxel]

6 hours ago, Breakshot said:

Can we confirm the EO bug still not fixed for ER behaviour?

Отправлено с моего STV100-2 через Tapatalk
 

 

Still not fixed:

Instant transition to OLS when in radar lookdown as soon as the target is in the notch. In the video it happens twice. One it is in the 90° notch, the second time it is in the altitude clutter notch (0 closure rate).

 

From what the developers wrote it seemed as it the issue was fixed, so maybe it was just forgotten to be merged.

Hopefully there will be a small patch or hotfix soon where this fix can be added.

[Hoarfrost]

8 часов назад, BlackPixxel сказал:

From what the developers wrote it seemed as it the issue was fixed, so maybe it was just forgotten to be merged.

Hopefully there will be a small patch or hotfix soon where this fix can be added.

Андрей это так? Забыли включить изменение или...? 

[Chizh]

Когда будет готово - включим.

[nighthawk2174]

50 minutes ago, Chizh said:

Когда будет готово - включим.

Is motor on/motor off drag difference modeled?

[Chizh]

11 minutes ago, nighthawk2174 said:

Is motor on/motor off drag difference modeled?

Not. We do not counting the base drag now.

[nighthawk2174]

39 minutes ago, Chizh said:

Not. We do not counting the base drag now.

Something i've been thinking about; you choose the new thrust values based on the document you showed us earlier correct?  Did they take this into account (i'd be surprised if they didn't)?  As such IRL the motor is a bit weaker but the drag reduction makes up for it to match what we have now.  As such the ER/ET are now matching what they probably are irl but other missiles are not (such as the AIM-7 where we got the motor data from the SMC document) where they probably boost to a somewhat higher speed irl but not in game right now due to this not being simulated.  Something to consider imho.

[Маэстро]

Aim-7 and aim-120 use new FM which models drag reduction due to thrust. 

[nighthawk2174]

Just now, Маэстро said:

Aim-7 and aim-120 use new FM which models drag reduction due to thrust. 

Understood by how much is it reduced?

[Маэстро]

4 minutes ago, nighthawk2174 said:

Understood by how much is it reduced?

As much as it should For AIM-7 this reduction known from docs/real wind tunnel tests, for AIM-120 from our CFD research.

[nighthawk2174]

Just now, Маэстро said:

As much as it should For AIM-7 this reduction known from docs/real wind tunnel tests, for AIM-120 from our CFD research.

Rog so in the 21%'ish range for the AIM7 and probably not to different for the 120?

[Hoarfrost]

07.04.2021 в 22:00, strelok2014 сказал:

Да сколько можно уже...

 

 

Где теперь ближайшие апдейты смотреть?

[Маэстро]

46 minutes ago, nighthawk2174 said:

Rog so in the 21%'ish range for the AIM7 and probably not to different for the 120?

I hope so. At least ballistics of AIM-7 matches the real one, ballistics of AIM-120 should be close to real one.

[KBAC]

2 часа назад, Маэстро сказал:

Aim-7 and aim-120 use new FM which models drag reduction due to thrust. 

Это уже в 2.7 так? То есть, в 2.7 сократили сопротивление?