thisisentchris87 Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 I'm gonna have to take a closer look at this. That bit about the Set Frequency is interesting. The Datalink not working in BS2 is annoying me to no end. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Antec DF-85 Case, Asus Sabertooth Z77, Intel i5-3570k Ivy Bridge 3.4 GHz, air-cooled with Noctua NH-D14, Corsair Vengeance 16GB, EVGA GTX 560 TI, Corsair Professional Series 750W, Creative Sound Blaster X-fi Titanium HD, ASUS EA-N66 Wireless Adapter
GAJ52 Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 I have created a couple of simple 'Create Fast Missions' to test the Datalink in this latest version. In every case I am able to assign a datalink target either by myself or have my wingman carry out a reconnaissance. I can 'send' the target to my wingman and order him to "attack datalink targets". He will always reply Roger or Affirm then fly towards the targets, but half way there he just turns around and says "Rejoin" without firing a shot ?? This has worked perfectly in previous versions, I'm really getting disillusioned with ED's quality control lately. The fun has gone out of Blackshark 2 with this broken Datalink / AI attack problem :( GAJ52 Intel i7-7700K @ 4.60GHz | 32 GB Ram | Win 10 Pro 64 | GTX 1080i 11.00MB | Saitek X52 Pro
ECV56_Tordo Posted November 9, 2012 Author Posted November 9, 2012 I know this is obvious. But you confirmed the target was a enemy? Because if the target is a friend or neutral, he not attack and make a rejoin. In my test last night (GOW Campaign), my wingman attacked the datalink targets. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] www.ecv56condor.com.ar AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 3.4 8Gb Kingston 1333 Nvidia GTX 460 1Gb Saitek X-52 Pro Saitek Ruddels Pedals TIR 5 + Clip Pro Win 7 64b
GAJ52 Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 That's a very good point, but in my case I can confirm it was the enemy each time. He seems to get the datalink because he always acknowledges the command, and then he flies in the direction of the datalink target but then turns around and says rejoin before he gets there. Just had a thought, they were moving targets so perhaps they moved from his target area. Never had this problem before though, as I use Datalink all the time, just in the last couple of updates. GAJ52 Intel i7-7700K @ 4.60GHz | 32 GB Ram | Win 10 Pro 64 | GTX 1080i 11.00MB | Saitek X52 Pro
thisisentchris87 Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Can't get my Wingmen to do anything with datalinks. I'm redownloading and reinstalling, see if that works. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Antec DF-85 Case, Asus Sabertooth Z77, Intel i5-3570k Ivy Bridge 3.4 GHz, air-cooled with Noctua NH-D14, Corsair Vengeance 16GB, EVGA GTX 560 TI, Corsair Professional Series 750W, Creative Sound Blaster X-fi Titanium HD, ASUS EA-N66 Wireless Adapter
TRITATUTTO Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 I cant give istruction with datalink too in 1.2.2...i press \ and nothing happen...... AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.0ghz 8G Ram Windows 7 64bit ATI Radeon HD 5700 1G
Mekako Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 With 1.2.2 update the DL problem was solved. Now i can use it like before. Even I can send an initial point of attack and he follows as ordered. If you send the position of a ground moving target and order to your wingman to attack it, he would not find it because the target has moved... it has sense although I do not remember if I did it before. Anyway many thanks to ED guys, great job!!!! Win 7 64bits Sp1; Panda Dome; i7 2600k 3,4gh OC 4,5; 16gb 4x1333 DDR3; Gigabyte GTX1080ti stock clocks; ASUS P8Z68V; OS and DCS on SDD 240gb 2,5"; 500gb HDD; cooler master silent pro 1000w; Track IR 5; Saitek X52; Saitek pro Combat rudder; 2560 x 1440
ECV56_Tordo Posted November 9, 2012 Author Posted November 9, 2012 I cant give istruction with datalink too in 1.2.2...i press \ and nothing happen...... Use RAlt + \ to open radio menu. :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] www.ecv56condor.com.ar AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 3.4 8Gb Kingston 1333 Nvidia GTX 460 1Gb Saitek X-52 Pro Saitek Ruddels Pedals TIR 5 + Clip Pro Win 7 64b
GAJ52 Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Can any of the ED Testers confirm if the Datalink problem has been fixed in 1.2.2 please. I have just read the manual again to make sure I'm doing it right. My Wingy appears to get the Datalink target ok, then flies towards the target and even at one point said "Attacking Target" - then blow me he did a 180 and said "Rejoin" without firing anything, with the target right in front of him ???? I then gave him a general "Attack Ground Targets" command and he killed everything in site :doh: GAJ52 Intel i7-7700K @ 4.60GHz | 32 GB Ram | Win 10 Pro 64 | GTX 1080i 11.00MB | Saitek X52 Pro
TRITATUTTO Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Use RAlt + \ to open radio menu. :thumbup: I'll try thanks AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.0ghz 8G Ram Windows 7 64bit ATI Radeon HD 5700 1G
TRITATUTTO Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 Use RAlt + \ to open radio menu. :thumbup: Thanks bro !!! AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.0ghz 8G Ram Windows 7 64bit ATI Radeon HD 5700 1G
GAJ52 Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 Has Datalink Been Fixed in 1.2.2 ? Sorry to raise another post on this topic but my original question got buried in another thread. My wingman appears to get the Datalink OK and acknowledges, but will not attack the target. He starts heading in the targets direction then turns back and says "rejoin" with the target still intact. GAJ52 Intel i7-7700K @ 4.60GHz | 32 GB Ram | Win 10 Pro 64 | GTX 1080i 11.00MB | Saitek X52 Pro
Adi Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 Sorry to raise another post on this topic but my original question got buried in another thread. My wingman appears to get the Datalink OK and acknowledges, but will not attack the target. He starts heading in the targets direction then turns back and says "rejoin" with the target still intact. Mine does the same thing, only when he returns he crashes into the other wingman who has taken up his position.
Erforce Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 OH dear... seriously? Those wingmen are a bunch of jokers ! here to fool the crowd ! I really wonder which dev touched the wrong line ! :D TASK / ROLES acronyms guide Black Shark A.I. datalink guide illustrated (v1.2.4 Available on Wiki) DCS World Codex 1.1 : full units list (Speed/Weapons/Armor thickness/Threat zone/Weapon damage...) (Oct 2013) BlackShark 2 1.2.x Bug and glitches thread (v1.2.7)
Dombl Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) Yes, it appears sending data-link targets work again, but something goes wrong when you tell your wingman to attack the specific target you assigned. Haven't done any extensive testing, but I think telling him to attack the target's group works at least, so I suppose that works as a workaround to at least make missions more playable for now. Do orders to attack targets by type also take into account targets assigned through data-link, or only targets the wingman "knows" about? Edit: I restored some graphics tweaks again from before the patch trying to minimize the performance loss I'd noticed in the mission I used to test this and the wingmen seem to attack properly now. I suppose the sim was simply too busy when the wingmen tried to lock targets with the schkval and failed? Might be a fluke, but could be worth checking if lowering your settings makes the problem go away. Edited November 11, 2012 by Dombl
GAJ52 Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Right, did some more testing ! When the wingman has been sent the Datalink target, it appears if you assign him 'Group', as the last poster said, he will attack the targets. So when giving him Datalink targets, you have to select either 2. Targets or 4. Targets by type. If you use 1. Target or 3. Target by Type he wont attack. Maybe something for ED to look into. GAJ52 Intel i7-7700K @ 4.60GHz | 32 GB Ram | Win 10 Pro 64 | GTX 1080i 11.00MB | Saitek X52 Pro
fjacobsen Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) Maybe focus should be on fixing the modules that has been implentet into DCS world (KA-50, A-10C, P-51D) before adding more content, like CA and FC3. It´s a bit irritating to see serveral releases of new updates, but no fix for this issue. For me DCS World has also become less stable with the last two updates. I have returned to BS2 1.1.1.1 for now... Wothan Edited November 15, 2012 by fjacobsen | i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz | 64GB RAM | RTX 4070 12GB | 1x1TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 1x2TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 2x2TB SATA SSD | 1x2TB HDD 7200 RPM | Win10 Home 64bit | Meta Quest 3 |
Erforce Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Hehe, for sure i've got some nice application CTD since 1.2.2 (was it 1.2.1?) The fact, if you're following my previous post (bugs and glitches summary) that ED resolved some ugly AI bugs, and keeps adding EXCELLENT options in Mission Editor. And just because of those awesome updates, i feel myself not able to re-fly a previous version ever. They're narrowing more and more bugs, i takes some time, but hopefully, they will make it. I only wish Datalink is on top-list. Right now, i have 1.02, 1.1 and 1.2.0 full packages sleeping on my hdd. think they will enter stasis. TASK / ROLES acronyms guide Black Shark A.I. datalink guide illustrated (v1.2.4 Available on Wiki) DCS World Codex 1.1 : full units list (Speed/Weapons/Armor thickness/Threat zone/Weapon damage...) (Oct 2013) BlackShark 2 1.2.x Bug and glitches thread (v1.2.7)
codenamepanzer Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Evolution from 1.2.1 for me: Now in 1.2.2, the wingman seems receive the target but refuses to attack it whatever the order in the datalink attack menu.
David Wong Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Maybe it works if u request your flight to rejoin formation and wait till they are with u . After that u sent the order.
GAJ52 Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 I have requested twice now, very politely, for any of the Devs or Testers to comment on this problem post 1.2.2. As I haven't had one answer I assume fixing this problem is very low on their current priorities. I have always been very impressed in the support given by ED and their determination to fix anything that's broken, but in this case the Datalink / Wingman attack problem is ruining the sim gameplay but they don't seem interested, even a comment would be nice ? GAJ52 Intel i7-7700K @ 4.60GHz | 32 GB Ram | Win 10 Pro 64 | GTX 1080i 11.00MB | Saitek X52 Pro
MadDog-IC Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 I have created a couple of simple 'Create Fast Missions' to test the Datalink in this latest version. In every case I am able to assign a datalink target either by myself or have my wingman carry out a reconnaissance. I can 'send' the target to my wingman and order him to "attack datalink targets". He will always reply Roger or Affirm then fly towards the targets, but half way there he just turns around and says "Rejoin" without firing a shot ?? This has worked perfectly in previous versions, I'm really getting disillusioned with ED's quality control lately. The fun has gone out of Blackshark 2 with this broken Datalink / AI attack problem :( I couldn't agree more, in SP the datalink was working kind of, but now with DCSW version 1.2.2.7286 it is doing as you say, wingman will take a datalink transmission, confirms he will attack with roger, then flies around for a little while with out firing a shot, then returns to formation. Restarted mission again, and some datalinking to Wingman 2, and this time the AI worked fine and attacked all targets. I have only noticed these problems lately, because I have been putting datalink controls on to VAC voice control and really trying to train myself to use the system very efficiently. The non-functional system has only confused me and led to lack of playing with game. Hope it is fixed soon. Cheer, Ian. Asus p877v-pro, Intel I7 3770k 4.2ghz, 32gb Ripjaw X ram, Nvidia RTX-2070 Super, Samsung 32" TV, Saitek x52 pro Joystick and Combat rudder pedals, TrackIR 5, Win8.1 x64 with SSD and SSHD protected by (Avast AV). DCS Tech Support.
GAJ52 Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 Can any of the ED Testers confirm if the Datalink problem has been fixed in 1.2.2 please. Any news on this please ? GAJ52 Intel i7-7700K @ 4.60GHz | 32 GB Ram | Win 10 Pro 64 | GTX 1080i 11.00MB | Saitek X52 Pro
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