bunraku Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Hi Is there a reason that on some of the Pylons you can carry triple LGB's, but not triple JDAM's although they are both Mark 82's with just different guidance systems attached? Thanx
thisisentchris87 Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Probably has something to do with JDAMs receiving position data from the EGI and your SPI. JDAMs need to be placed on a smart rack otherwise they won't work right. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Antec DF-85 Case, Asus Sabertooth Z77, Intel i5-3570k Ivy Bridge 3.4 GHz, air-cooled with Noctua NH-D14, Corsair Vengeance 16GB, EVGA GTX 560 TI, Corsair Professional Series 750W, Creative Sound Blaster X-fi Titanium HD, ASUS EA-N66 Wireless Adapter
MTFDarkEagle Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 With the GBU-38 when you press the release weapon switch the positional data is sent to the navigation system on the JDAM. While the GBU-12 "receives" it's data some seconds before impact by means of a laser. There is no data sent to the LGB before the drop like the JDAM. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Jordan4 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 On a similar note how come in DCS you cannot use the 19 round hydra pods and only the 7 rounders. What a huge decrease in firepower. Its basically a waste of a pylon to put a 7 round rocket pod on.
ralfidude Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 You can 3 rack hydras. Looots of rockets there. Except they do absolutely no damage what so ever currently in DCS unless it's a direct hit. [sIGPIC]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/ralfidude/redofullalmost_zpsa942f3fe.gif[/sIGPIC]
Tucano_uy Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 70mm rockets in DCS are as effective as suppositories, they only work if you manage to get them right up the enemies a$$. 1
Jordan4 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 70mm rockets in DCS are as effective as suppositories, they only work if you manage to get them right up the enemies a$$. I do ok with them not to mention they are very fun in my opion. You can 3 rack hydras. I am aware of this.... The question remains. Can anybody give me any reason whatsoever why the 19 round hydra pods where not modeled for DCS?
Eddie Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Because they are not used in real life. The USAF uses only the LAU-131 and LAU-68 launchers, the 19 shot launchers are only used by rotary wing aircraft and the Harriers..
Tucano_uy Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 I do ok with them not to mention they are very fun in my opion. I agree they're fun. It was discussed looong time ago and according to ED the rocket effectiveness is correct. Luckily I've never been anywhere close to a rocket explosion so I have no real life experience, but I still believe they're pretty useless in DCS. We've all seen rocket impact barely a few feet away from infantry and the guy stays alive. I was fooling around with the mission editor the other day and loaded a UH1 with rockets and miniguns and sent it against a bunch of infantry, closely standing together. The effect was that the chopper took the infantrymen one by one with a pair of rockets each, extremely limited area effect. But the topic was about triple JDAMS...
Jordan4 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 I was fooling around with the mission editor the other day and loaded a UH1 with rockets and miniguns and sent it against a bunch of infantry, closely standing together. The effect was that the chopper took the infantrymen one by one with a pair of rockets each, extremely limited area effect. If you choose the m151 you will have much better luck against infantry and area targets. The MK5 as you know is a HEAT warhead and not a HE frag. The topic was JDAMS however it has been covered. Because they are not used in real life. The USAF uses only the LAU-131 and LAU-68 launchers, the 19 shot launchers are only used by rotary wing aircraft and the Harriers.. Why were they availible in Lock on? Did the A-10A carry them? Or was this overlooked and they were accidentally put in? Any insight as to why they are not used in real life? Why be limited to a 7 round pod when you could have a 19 round pod? If you are going to occupy an entire pylon then why not do it with more rockets? Just dont get it.
OutOnTheOP Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 I suspect the reason the USAF doesn't use the 19-rocket pods in real life is because they also don't get much use out of unguided rockets in real life. As far as I'm aware (granted, I wasn't a JTAC, but I was CAS controller-qualified), the A-10 pretty much only uses WP rockets, and then only to mark targets when used in the AFAC role.
Eddie Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Why were they availible in Lock on? Did the A-10A carry them? Or was this overlooked and they were accidentally put in? Any insight as to why they are not used in real life? Why be limited to a 7 round pod when you could have a 19 round pod? If you are going to occupy an entire pylon then why not do it with more rockets? Just dont get it. Lockon is not a high fidelity sim, and as such many aspects of it are not true to life. As for the rest, well have a think about weight and drag. A single LAU-131 has the same drag index as 5 (yes 5) Mk-82s. A 19 shot rocket pod might only take one pylon in term of physical size, but the drag added (much more than a 7 shot) would mean having to leave other pylons empty.
marcos Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) With the GBU-38 when you press the release weapon switch the positional data is sent to the navigation system on the JDAM. While the GBU-12 "receives" it's data some seconds before impact by means of a laser. There is no data sent to the LGB before the drop like the JDAM. So I guess it will be interesting to see how EPWs (GBU-48/49/50) and LJDAMs (GBU-54/55/56) can be carried since they use laser and inertial positioning data. Because they are not used in real life. The USAF uses only the LAU-131 and LAU-68 launchers, the 19 shot launchers are only used by rotary wing aircraft and the Harriers.. What about the LAU-10 Zuni pods? They might offer better splash damage and anti-MBT ability, especially when the laser-guided variant comes into service. Is the APKWS I/II configured for the A-10C yet? Edited November 2, 2012 by marcos
marcos Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Why were they availible in Lock on? Did the A-10A carry them? The A-10A still can carry triple 19 pods on DCS.
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