Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

Reason why Su-35S for example also needs special pod is because it is question of range. Specialized pod for a ground attack task will of course offer better range and possibly better quality than what IRST can offer. Either way it is smart to not be "reliable" only on a specialized designator pod, but have IRST designate as well.

 

Well it will need a special pod with the ability to paint the target below the aircraft(as seen in the above picture of the Su-34) if it is to employ laser guided bombs.

JJ

Posted
Well it will need a special pod with the ability to paint the target below the aircraft(as seen in the above picture of the Su-34) if it is to employ laser guided bombs.

 

Surely Su-35S has not lost ability like previous flankers to make a shallow dive? :)

 

2qv867m.jpg

  • Like 1
Posted
Dive = higher risk.

 

No doubt. I didn't say IRST was better than a pod.

 

Specialized pod for a ground attack task will of course offer better range and possibly better quality than what IRST can offer.

 

Better range = less risk.

Posted
Surely Su-35S has not lost ability like previous flankers to make a shallow dive? :)

 

I said:

Well it will need a special pod with the ability to paint the target below the aircraft(as seen in the above picture of the Su-34) if it is to employ laser guided bombs.

 

The weapon employed in the photo is the X-29T, which is:

 

a) a missile

 

b) TV homing

JJ

Posted
No doubt. I didn't say IRST was better than a pod

 

Better range = less risk.

 

Nothing to do with range - its about angle and velocity of the released weapon.

 

A powered weapon like the X-29L races ahead of the aircraft when launched and gives the launch platform time to paint the target before passing over it - not so with a free fall bomb.

 

The X-29TE in your photo is TV homing("fire & forget") - the launching platform just needs to take a "snap shot" of the target prior to launch and doesn't need to support the weapon after that......not to mention that the X-29TE can be deployed at much longer range(20 -30 km) than the laser guided variant(~ 10 km).

JJ

Posted
Nothing to do with range - its about angle and velocity of the released weapon.

 

A powered weapon like the X-29L races ahead of the aircraft when launched and gives the launch platform time to paint the target before passing over it - not so with a free fall bomb.

 

The X-29TE in your photo is TV homing("fire & forget") - the launching platform just needs to take a "snap shot" of the target prior to launch and doesn't need to support the weapon after that......not to mention that the X-29TE can be deployed at much longer range(20 -30 km) than the laser guided variant(~ 10 km).

 

I am perfectly aware it is Kh-29T (can't write Cyrillic AND Roman in same designation). It was just to show the dive.

 

And i am aware of T/L difference.

 

But fair enough, you have the overall point. My point to start with is that IRST can paint ground.

 

beautiful and perfect legs :D

 

The Tu-95MS? :D

Posted
I am perfectly aware it is Kh-29T (can't write Cyrillic AND Roman in same designation).

 

Well I just did :P

 

But fair enough, you have the overall point. My point to start with is that IRST can paint ground.

 

Yes it can, but my point was that its only really practical for TV homing weapons. Due to its position on the aircraft with a mere -15 degrees "look-down" angle the dive required for a short range laser guided weapon is not exactly shallow and could be problematic even for the flight duration of a Kh-29L(there happy now? :D ).

JJ

Posted
Well I just did :P

 

 

 

Yes it can, but my point was that its only really practical for TV homing weapons. Due to its position on the aircraft with a mere -15 degrees "look-down" angle the dive required for a short range laser guided weapon is not exactly shallow and could be problematic even for the flight duration of a Kh-29L(there happy now? :D ).

How about go inverted after weapon release and then level off with forward stick? :D

[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]

Posted
GSh-30-1

dscf5527z.jpg

 

dscf5678a.th.jpg dscf76061.th.jpg dscf7614v.th.jpg

Namenlos. How durable are those things?

 

The fire rate seems extraordinary for a single barrel, single chamber cannon.

 

I guess it eliminates spool time and for a weapon that isn't a primary armament, I guess longevity isn't so important.

Posted
The GSh-301 has a rate of fire of 1,800 rounds per minute, customarily limited to 1,500 rounds per minute to reduce barrel wear. Despite that, its barrel life is quite short: 2,000 rounds . When firing a continuous burst of 100–150 rounds, the barrel is put under so much stress that it has to be replaced
.

Cheers.

Posted (edited)
How durable are those things?

For the base version of GSh-30-1 (9-А-4071К) durability theoretically was 2000 rounds, but in practice it was only 150 rounds.

http://ser-sarajkin.narod2.ru/ALL_OUT/TiVOut10/RuAviGun/RuAviGun037.htm

 

For the gun designated as “9-А-4071К.00.000-01 with extended durability” I have no data.

http://vpk.name/library/f/gh-301.html

 

When firing a continuous burst of 100–150 rounds, etc

The continuous burst was limited to 35-40 rounds maximum (“long burst”). The recommended “short burst” is 7-15 rounds.

Edited by Namenlos Ein

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...