pepin1234 Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 Just to add a few things; Su-34 does have designator. In fact it is inbuilt. . [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
NOLA Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 Correct. :) As usual gems from Ablogin, this time Tu-160: http://aviaforum.ru/showpost.php?p=1276964&postcount=174 http://aviaforum.ru/showpost.php?p=1277786&postcount=177 1
Alfa Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 Reason why Su-35S for example also needs special pod is because it is question of range. Specialized pod for a ground attack task will of course offer better range and possibly better quality than what IRST can offer. Either way it is smart to not be "reliable" only on a specialized designator pod, but have IRST designate as well. Well it will need a special pod with the ability to paint the target below the aircraft(as seen in the above picture of the Su-34) if it is to employ laser guided bombs. JJ
NOLA Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 Well it will need a special pod with the ability to paint the target below the aircraft(as seen in the above picture of the Su-34) if it is to employ laser guided bombs. Surely Su-35S has not lost ability like previous flankers to make a shallow dive? :) 1
RIPTIDE Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 Surely Su-35S has not lost ability like previous flankers to make a shallow dive? :) Dive = higher risk. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
NOLA Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 Dive = higher risk. No doubt. I didn't say IRST was better than a pod. Specialized pod for a ground attack task will of course offer better range and possibly better quality than what IRST can offer. Better range = less risk.
Alfa Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 Surely Su-35S has not lost ability like previous flankers to make a shallow dive? :) I said: Well it will need a special pod with the ability to paint the target below the aircraft(as seen in the above picture of the Su-34) if it is to employ laser guided bombs. The weapon employed in the photo is the X-29T, which is: a) a missile b) TV homing JJ
Alfa Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 No doubt. I didn't say IRST was better than a pod Better range = less risk. Nothing to do with range - its about angle and velocity of the released weapon. A powered weapon like the X-29L races ahead of the aircraft when launched and gives the launch platform time to paint the target before passing over it - not so with a free fall bomb. The X-29TE in your photo is TV homing("fire & forget") - the launching platform just needs to take a "snap shot" of the target prior to launch and doesn't need to support the weapon after that......not to mention that the X-29TE can be deployed at much longer range(20 -30 km) than the laser guided variant(~ 10 km). JJ
NRG-Vampire Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 WOW :thumbup: beautiful and perfect legs :D
NOLA Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Nothing to do with range - its about angle and velocity of the released weapon. A powered weapon like the X-29L races ahead of the aircraft when launched and gives the launch platform time to paint the target before passing over it - not so with a free fall bomb. The X-29TE in your photo is TV homing("fire & forget") - the launching platform just needs to take a "snap shot" of the target prior to launch and doesn't need to support the weapon after that......not to mention that the X-29TE can be deployed at much longer range(20 -30 km) than the laser guided variant(~ 10 km). I am perfectly aware it is Kh-29T (can't write Cyrillic AND Roman in same designation). It was just to show the dive. And i am aware of T/L difference. But fair enough, you have the overall point. My point to start with is that IRST can paint ground. beautiful and perfect legs :D The Tu-95MS? :D
NRG-Vampire Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 The Tu-95MS? :D of course :rotflmao: miraculous long legs
Alfa Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I am perfectly aware it is Kh-29T (can't write Cyrillic AND Roman in same designation). Well I just did :P But fair enough, you have the overall point. My point to start with is that IRST can paint ground. Yes it can, but my point was that its only really practical for TV homing weapons. Due to its position on the aircraft with a mere -15 degrees "look-down" angle the dive required for a short range laser guided weapon is not exactly shallow and could be problematic even for the flight duration of a Kh-29L(there happy now? :D ). JJ
RIPTIDE Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Well I just did :P Yes it can, but my point was that its only really practical for TV homing weapons. Due to its position on the aircraft with a mere -15 degrees "look-down" angle the dive required for a short range laser guided weapon is not exactly shallow and could be problematic even for the flight duration of a Kh-29L(there happy now? :D ). How about go inverted after weapon release and then level off with forward stick? :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
marcos Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 GSh-30-1 Namenlos. How durable are those things? The fire rate seems extraordinary for a single barrel, single chamber cannon. I guess it eliminates spool time and for a weapon that isn't a primary armament, I guess longevity isn't so important.
Weta43 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 The GSh-301 has a rate of fire of 1,800 rounds per minute, customarily limited to 1,500 rounds per minute to reduce barrel wear. Despite that, its barrel life is quite short: 2,000 rounds . When firing a continuous burst of 100–150 rounds, the barrel is put under so much stress that it has to be replaced . Cheers.
Namenlos Ein Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) How durable are those things? For the base version of GSh-30-1 (9-А-4071К) durability theoretically was 2000 rounds, but in practice it was only 150 rounds. http://ser-sarajkin.narod2.ru/ALL_OUT/TiVOut10/RuAviGun/RuAviGun037.htm For the gun designated as “9-А-4071К.00.000-01 with extended durability” I have no data. http://vpk.name/library/f/gh-301.html When firing a continuous burst of 100–150 rounds, etc The continuous burst was limited to 35-40 rounds maximum (“long burst”). The recommended “short burst” is 7-15 rounds. Edited February 26, 2013 by Namenlos Ein
Namenlos Ein Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Su-25SM Ka-52 Mi-26 of course :rotflmao: miraculous long legs
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