F-15C vs Su-27

[RSBoomer]

Unedited heaters only... Fun fight, enjoy

 

[elchacal]

Great vid!

[Steel Jaw]

MuHaHaHa..."I'll just hit the brakes and he'll fly right by"...the Flanker Driver made a mistake letting that work.

[GGTharos]

The flanker driver seems to be an AI ... although not sure humans would necessarily do better. The ones who know what they're doing would have come off the AB. :)

[RSBoomer]

Yes he is AI... I should have specified. Even though they never turn off the AB it is still hard to get a Sidewinder up his tailpipe... Any tips for better heater shots?

[leafer]

If I was the 27 driver I'd have turned that 15 into a multi-million dollar dirt shovel.

 

Pew pew, I'm out!

[Outlaw]

Sry but no impressed and i ll be a hater in here .. any player would have took u down easy.. u lost ur speed very quick and almost stalled pulling up plus the use off zoom..

[Cali]

That was pretty bad flying and the zoom oh my. Practice makes prefect, we all started out there at one point.

[*Rage*]

Tough crowd....

 

Keep flying. Shame there are less dogfight servers now...

[GGTharos]

It's a pretty complex subject so 'tips' as such can be hard to issue. It takes 9 months just to train a pilot for the basics for this stuff.

 

But basic tips, stay behind him and get him to slow down. Slow planes are easy targets. Conversely, don't be in front of him (not always possible, he turns better) and stay fast. You can still survive if you're fast and and in front of him while he's slow.

 

Use your weapons when he's either running in a straight line or he has a constant turn, or he's slow.

 

Expend your speed to saddle up or get the kill shot - not just because you need to hold the stick back as far as it will go. Practice sustained speed turns.

 

Try not to end up below your bandit, especially when slow.

 

All of these are rules of thumb, guidelines, whatever else you want to call them. That means you should normally heed them, but you should also lay them aside at the right moment. What that is ... takes a lot of effort to teach :)

 

Boomer;1632860']Yes he is AI... I should have specified. Even though they never turn off the AB it is still hard to get a Sidewinder up his tailpipe... Any tips for better heater shots?

[blkspade]

Honestly that particular DACT mission against the 27 is much too easy. Most tips that would apply to it don't really work as well vs a human. You can kill that 27 before merge 90% of the time, by not flying head on. Since he's marking, maintaining visual is easy so put him ~30 degrees off your nose and be a little higher or lower. You should be out of AB from about 5nm out, wait for him to fire. Pop flares, while turning into him. Line him up, FOX 2. Usually only takes one, send 2 for good measure. On rare occasion he'll get a 2nd one off, and on more rare occasion that one will collide with yours. The Ai is far too predictable, the only times they appear to be doing anything different is in response to something you've done wrong. The mission against the Mig29 with heaters is better because the R60 is all aspect while the 9p is rear only. Its made more challenging by the fact that mostly due to poor LOD, maintaining visual on the mig is harder.