"Take off from Runway" is not "Take off From Runway" in MP

[Bahger]

I've made a mission for SP in which both client and AI aircraft set to "Take off From Runway" are indeed placed in takeoff position on the runway. However, the same placement when running the MP version of the mission puts the client aircraft on the ramp. It's a relatively short taxi but it affects the mission timings compared to the SP mission. Is it possible to script all aircraft to be holding position on the runway in MP or do I need to adjust all other affected mission timings to reflect an unanticipated, approximately 120-second delay in getting Blue aircraft into the air?

[Grimes]

Its a "safety precaution" of sorts just in case someone or AI is landing when a player or AI spawns in. Its sort of game breaking if a collision occurred like that.

 

On the plus side the aircraft with runway start, will be on the ramp in a hot pit ready to go.

[Bahger]

Got it. Makes sense now you mention it.

[Wrecking Crew]

Yes, you need to account for the Client being in a taxi-way slot. The Client will not start out at the end of the runway. There is no way to choose the parking slot the Client will start in, either.

 

The advantage of Start On Runway vs Start on Ramp is that the Runway start is a "Warm Start" while the Ramp is a "Cold Start".

 

You might want to take the easy way out and have the Client start in the air. You *could* point the Client directly at a small trigger zone, and when the Client flies into that zone it would activate the AI a/c. An AI activation will only happen once per AI a/c, so keep that in mind.

 

And watch out for any Client triggered events when using Zones. I *believe* that a Once Trigger with a Client is really only once, even if the Client dies and respawns. Use Switched Condition,,, but then if there's only one AI a/c then that will have been activated on the previous Client's flight. I do not know if a Client activated zone trigger will trigger again if the Client completely leaves the game, and then someone comes in and takes that same Client spot...

 

WC

[Bahger]

Thanks, WC. Simplest thing would be for me just to alter the timings a little. I might split the difference, putting the player(s) a little "behind the curve" so that the mission is slightly more difficult in MP.

 

I remember from the Beta days how dismissive the purists were of non cold-start missions. I wonder if that has eased up a little.

[Grimes]

I *believe* that a Once Trigger with a Client is really only once, even if the Client dies and respawns.

 

Once triggers will only execute once, the contents of the trigger will never change how the trigger works.

[Sierra99]

Thanks, WC. Simplest thing would be for me just to alter the timings a little. I might split the difference, putting the player(s) a little "behind the curve" so that the mission is slightly more difficult in MP.

 

I remember from the Beta days how dismissive the purists were of non cold-start missions. I wonder if that has eased up a little.

 

I always include both when adding aircraft. Initially, the only aircraft available at ramp start...it's part of the game and I kinda like bringing my airplane to life.... Once or twice...Then, it's not as much fun...So I add some aircraft as "Alert" lines that are "Takeoff from runway" and become available 20-30 minutes into the mission.

 

I also add a few line that are "Takeoff from runway" for people who aren't as good with a preflight as I am.

 

Sierra

[Habu_69]

Personally, I enjoy FLYING the airplane, much less so the button pushing and waiting 6 min. just to start moving. I have nor moral qualms with using the start procedure cheat.

[mwd2]

is it also possible for the Ka-50, to start with a hot pit, but on the parking space - if you set the client to"Take off from runway" (also from the FARP?)?

[Grimes]

All aircraft start with a hot pit if you set them as "take off from runway" in a multiplayer mission.

[Wrecking Crew]

Once triggers will only execute once, the contents of the trigger will never change how the trigger works.

 

:-) Grimes

 

What I mean, is that a particular Client can be in the game and trigger the Once event and then leave the server. A second Client comes into the same slot as the first Client was in, without any awareness of the first Client, and the Trigger won't work again.

 

Logically, the Once Trigger did what it was set up to do.

 

But the second Client may be left scratching their head wondering why the trigger did not fire.

 

This is because the Once Trigger is looking for the Group ID that these Clients are occupying, and not the Client's UID.

 

WC

[JG14_Smil]

Build a time cusion into your mission that allows some time to prepare and takeoff and still match your flightplan timings and triggers.

 

You say something like " take off at x:xx:xx into the mission".