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I don't fly the F15 (and by extension FC3) anymore since this bug is a no go for me. When I logg in every patch and check it out, notice it's still there - I am just going back to A10C. :)

 

Worst thing is this bug was new (or one ver. before) when FC3 went out of beta - that was a big joke. Can't believe ED still didn't fix this, look at the pricing of FC3, people atleast should be able to land.

 

@Rooster, I get that it is POSSIBLE to land if you don't exceed certain parameters, but honestly guys, can anyone argue this is FC3, with simple flight model and that this shouldn't be an issue at all?

 

Broken gear on a DCS level plane - any day, cool! But not on my F15!

 

Please ED take this seriously, I am forced to tell my friends not to buy FC3, how could I look them in the eye when they sit on the tarmac on their belly?!

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His shoes have several thousand real landings. He knows the book. He could probably write the F-15 book. The landing technique he describes IS in fact correct for a non-formation landing.

 

We did find the bug, we did complain about it, and it's not our (the tester's) job to squash it. WE also don't minimize it - we know it's being fixed, and Rooster offered a correct way to deal with it for the time being. Incidentally, it happens to be a real landing technique.

 

Really, you're out of line Kenan, so by all means, please stuff it :P

 

To be honest, if I were in your shoes I don't think I would have the nerve to even argue with people in regards to the bug which slipped under my radar or try to downplay its importance in any way.
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His shoes have several thousand real landings. He knows the book. He could probably write the F-15 book. The landing technique he describes IS in fact correct for a non-formation landing.

 

I was just waiting for the "He's a real life pilot" argument. As that is supposed to, somehow, relate to the very issue at hand ie. the problem of the landing bug? With all due respect to his calling (and I really, really mean it!), in this very specific case, it doesn't really hold that much relevance.

 

He used the proper landing procedure (and I mentioned in my previous post he proved me wrong in regards to being able to actually land the 15 under such bugged conditions, so that's not an issue) but again, so do most of us have been doing all this time BUT what he did was finding a sweet spot technique and he is sticking to it, figuring out how to negate the bug.

It's quite possible other, non-RL pilot folks ie. FC3 armchair pilots who've never flown a radio controlled mini-Cessna let alone a fighter jet, figured it out after setting their minds to it, so..what's your point?

 

As for you telling me I'm out of line, well, it's not my "duty" as a customer to dwelve into the reasons for this bug to be present for so long and find excuses for you and your coleagues why is it so. All I know, and which is the fact, it still is. And I don't think anyone is happy about it. You think I'm enjoying writing these posts?

 

You said you complained about it, well, in my opinion, I think you should have, with all due respect, complained more, you should have told the programmers "Listen, if you don't fix this bug people will complain as it almost a show stopper." - which is what exactly happened and you are part of the community, you are one of us so you know, in terms of gameplay, what should be given priority and what shouldn't.

 

You are somehow part of the "establishment" so be prepared for the criticism and don't take it personally. It comes with the position of a beta tester. I don't think I'm saying anything outrageous here really.

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Kenan you have obviously never been a part of a reputable Beta Testing Team. All we can do is DL updates and report report report. What more do you want from us: A quart of blood? Our first Born? Jumping up and down and hollering does no good. It was a tough bug to track down the reasons for it being. Hopefully with 1.2.5 you can shut your pie hole about it. Back to your local station programming now.

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It's quite possible other, non-RL pilot folks ie. FC3 armchair pilots who've never flown a radio controlled mini-Cessna let alone a fighter jet, figured it out after setting their minds to it, so..what's your point?

 

What's yours?

 

You think I'm enjoying writing these posts?

 

No, which is why you should stop, aside from the fact that you basically decided to rant at someone who just wanted to help with a way of dealing with the bug for the time being. :P

 

You said you complained about it, well, in my opinion, I think you should have, with all due respect, complained more, you should have told the programmers "Listen, if you don't fix this bug people will complain as it almost a show stopper." - which is what exactly happened and you are part of the community, you are one of us so you know, in terms of gameplay, what should be given priority and what shouldn't.

 

With all due respect, once more you are out of line. Seriously, stop.

 

You are somehow part of the "establishment" so be prepared for the criticism and don't take it personally. It comes with the position of a beta tester. I don't think I'm saying anything outrageous here really.

 

It's about beating the rotting corpse of a horse, not about establishments. And every now and then, our tolerance for beating dead horses goes away.

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