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Hello community!

 

I am trying to watch an instructional track "Takeoff Demonstration" for the P-51D tutorials. For some reason, the instructor veers off the runway and crashes spectracularly. I've tried to enable Auto-rudder and take-off assists but it didn't help. :)

 

Any idea why this is happening? :)

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Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat)

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Thrustmaster Warthog

Thrustmaster Cougar (x2)

Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS

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Standby controls:

BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller)

BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller)

Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle

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Posted (edited)

Did you set the rudder to 5-6 degrees to the right?

 

This will help straighten the aircraft on take off.

 

If that does not help check your controls I bet that there is a problem there.

Edited by Krupi

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This is because the track was recorded on earlier builds and there have been changes to the FM since, so it no longer plays back correctly. We've already recorded a new track using the current model, but unfortunately it didn't make it into the 1.2.3 update. It will be included with v.1.2.4.

 

Here is the track so you can view it manually or, if you wish, replace the old track with this one. You can find the takeoff demonstration track in \Mods\aircrafts\P-51D\Missions\EN\Training\Aircraft Operation\3.

takeoff-demo.trk

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Did you set the rudder to 5-6 degrees to the right?

 

This will help straighten the aircraft on take off.

 

If that does not help check your controls I bet that there is a problem there.

 

The track is actually controlled by a pre-recorded instructor. :)

My controls & seat

 

Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat)

Stick grips:

Thrustmaster Warthog

Thrustmaster Cougar (x2)

Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS

BRD KG13

 

Standby controls:

BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller)

BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller)

Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle

Pilot seat

 

 

Posted (edited)
This is because the track was recorded on earlier builds and there have been changes to the FM since, so it no longer plays back correctly. We've already recorded a new track using the current model, but unfortunately it didn't make it into the 1.2.3 update. It will be included with v.1.2.4.

 

Here is the track so you can view it manually or, if you wish, replace the old track with this one. You can find the takeoff demonstration track in \Mods\aircrafts\P-51D\Missions\EN\Training\Aircraft Operation\3.

 

I kinda thought it was due to the changes in 1.2.3! Thank you for the track file. :)

Edited by The LT
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My controls & seat

 

Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat)

Stick grips:

Thrustmaster Warthog

Thrustmaster Cougar (x2)

Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS

BRD KG13

 

Standby controls:

BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller)

BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller)

Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle

Pilot seat

 

 

Posted
" Instructor crashes during training demonstration!"

 

Well I wouldn't be flying with that instructor anymore!

 

Lol, it was a meh moment for me as well. :) I was like "heeeey, give er some right rudder mate... oooohhh noooo"

My controls & seat

 

Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat)

Stick grips:

Thrustmaster Warthog

Thrustmaster Cougar (x2)

Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS

BRD KG13

 

Standby controls:

BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller)

BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller)

Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle

Pilot seat

 

 

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I had a similar incident during my flight training in a Robinson R22... I was handling the Collective only and the instructor had the cyclic. Practicing pickups and set downs and after 4 or 5 with no issue... Picked er up... And all Hell broke loose.. Never did figure out exactly what happened or why, but the damn thing veered hard left and the skid hit the ground... Dynamic Rollover... Rotor pieces thru the canopy, stuck in my seat belt and had to cut my way out and then exit the helicopter thru the broken canopy.. Instructor had broken collarbone.. (due to my resting on top of him with the helicopter on it's side..)

 

All in all not recommended!

 

NO IDEA what happened. That was at about hour #5 of training...

(A LOT more sedate from then on thankfully..)

 

;O)

"Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence."

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Posted

Wow, thats serious!!! Didn't the instructor elaborate later? :)

My controls & seat

 

Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat)

Stick grips:

Thrustmaster Warthog

Thrustmaster Cougar (x2)

Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS

BRD KG13

 

Standby controls:

BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller)

BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller)

Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle

Pilot seat

 

 

Posted

Absolutely.. We went over the incident ad nauseam, but we never really determined why the thing veered left like it did.. We both have a suspicion that maybe a maintenance issue as it had it's 100 hour work a few days before..

 

But no way to really know for sure.. (Hell the instructor could have been napping, but I don't think so... I trusted this guy and continued to trust and fly with him after the incident as well.) He has since moved on and is flying an S-76 for PHI in the Gulf...

"Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence."

RAMBO

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