JujuMan Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) Recently noticed this when flying a Night Ops with some guys online. When I have the MFCD set to the NT brightness setting, the TGP is next to useless when trying to look for targets. The members of the same flight also commented on the same problem, if it is indeed a problem. Targets and Landscape would only become visible within 1.5 miles on the TGP screen. Used WHOT/BHOT TGP mode. When we changed the MFCD to the DAY mode, all was well again. I thought that Dimming the display would do just that without completely making it useless for Target acquisition. I have even messed around with the GAIN and LVL's of the TGP but still no joy for us in the NT mode. It was working fine before, could someone please check and let me know I'm not going blind or let me know that this is working "as intended"...:helpsmilie: Version 1.2.3 Edited March 1, 2013 by JujuMan _________________________________________
ED Team NineLine Posted March 1, 2013 ED Team Posted March 1, 2013 Isnt NT just the brightness of the display and not so much a "night vision" mode? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Evil.Bonsai Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Yeah. It's just a dimmer, like on some LED alarm clocks. Turns the brightness down so as not to wash out eye sensitivity. Doesn't matter much in the sim, but I'd guess quite useful in the real thing.
ED Team NineLine Posted March 1, 2013 ED Team Posted March 1, 2013 Yeah. It's just a dimmer, like on some LED alarm clocks. Turns the brightness down so as not to wash out eye sensitivity. Doesn't matter much in the sim, but I'd guess quite useful in the real thing. Thats what I thought, has no bearing on the night vision capabilities of the the TGP. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
JujuMan Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 mmmm, Try using the dimmer with an overcast sky. Its a no go for me and some of my buddies. Clear sky is fine, as soon as you put an overcast layer (say 13000ft) the Display is just a murky grey...no contrast of targets/structures are visible until your right on top of them. This was flying at 8000ft, and yes, I was below the cloudbase/overcast. _________________________________________
JujuMan Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 Yeah, Gain and LVL (dependant on which FLIR mode) has little/no effect. Only nturning the MFCD back to "DAY" mode makes it useable. The difference is staggering. Its not a show stopper, but one to avoid in future Night missions when the conditions exist. _________________________________________
SmokeyTheLung Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 The MFCDs have rocker switches that control brightness and contrast (not the same as gain/level for the FLIR) at the corners of the display. Switching an MFCD to night mode just changes the default levels. You can change them to the default day settings for the TGP only if you like, I think that should solve your issue. Note that the settings that you enter are only for the current page that you have displayed on the MFCD. System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
JujuMan Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 The MFCDs have rocker switches that control brightness and contrast (not the same as gain/level for the FLIR) at the corners of the display. Switching an MFCD to night mode just changes the default levels. You can change them to the default day settings for the TGP only if you like, I think that should solve your issue. Note that the settings that you enter are only for the current page that you have displayed on the MFCD. Isn't that the whole point of having a "NT" setting? To do all that for you instead of messing with the Contrast/Brightness controls in an already busy cockpit. Like I said, it was just an observation and in no way am I an authority on how it really works. I will give it a try though. thanks _________________________________________
ED Team NineLine Posted March 1, 2013 ED Team Posted March 1, 2013 Isn't that the whole point of having a "NT" setting? To do all that for you instead of messing with the Contrast/Brightness controls in an already busy cockpit. Like I said, it was just an observation and in no way am I an authority on how it really works. I will give it a try though. thanks Everybody sees things differently, obviously others are either adjusting it or are fine with how it is, or else I would think there wold be more threads like this :) Just about every display I can think of has adjustments for contrast/brightness, I couldnt imagine a very expensive USAF plane not having the option :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Evil.Bonsai Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I just added a full cloud layer at 4000m and reflew that same mission from the screenshot above: no change for me, works as intended. Although, I found a new feature: nvgs turn the eo tgp to nightvision as well. Sure you're not enabling a FOG layer or something? Using NVGs and looking out canopy, can you see the ground ok? Something just doesn't sound right.
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