Atomic978 Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Ok sorry to post this here but most of you guys are good with math i assume. Well this might be a simple problem but i can not figure it out for the life of me. My daughter has a story problem and I am stuck. I know shame on me but usually I am pretty good at story problems. But for some reason I can not figure this one out. So if someone can help please do. Here is the story problem. 5. The total cost of a chair,desk, and lamp is $562.00. The desk costs 4 times as much as the lamp, and the chair costs $23.00 less then the desk. Find the cost of all three items. Lamp cost: desk cost: chair cost: Total cost: check: if anybody has a clue the help would be great. Thanks in advance. =RvE=Atomic Alienware Area-51, Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 3.2GHz, 8gig Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram, EVGA SC GTX 570, Western Digital 1.0TB 64mb cache HD. Windows 7 Ultimate 64, Saitek X52 & Saitek Pro Peddals, TrackIR 4 Pro with Track Clip Pro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 I know this one: solving... You have to make an equation system. trying to solve it by mind is a pain, here it goes: {C+d+L=562 {d=4L.....................................................just as the story says, then: {C=D-23 from the 2nd equation you get: L= d/4, you dont even have to mess with the 3rd so this results in the following replacing the 2nd and the 3rd on the 1st: (d-23)+d+d/4=564<=> 2d+d/4=585<=> 8d/4+d/4=585<=> 9d/4=585 <=> d=4*585/9=260$ Replacing this on the 2nd it gives: 260=4L<=> L=260/4=65 replacing again d on the 3rd it gives: C=260-23=237 Did this in 1 minute, hope its right:biggrin: .
Atomic978 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Posted December 7, 2005 thanks i will wait patiently... =RvE=Atomic Alienware Area-51, Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 3.2GHz, 8gig Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram, EVGA SC GTX 570, Western Digital 1.0TB 64mb cache HD. Windows 7 Ultimate 64, Saitek X52 & Saitek Pro Peddals, TrackIR 4 Pro with Track Clip Pro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 C + D + L = 562 D = 4 * L => L = D/4 D = C - 23 => C = D + 23 (D+23) + D + D/4 = 562 D+D+D/4= 562-23 9D / 4 = 539 9D = 539*4 9D = 2156 D = 2156 /9 = 239.555 C = D + 23 = 262.555 L = D/4 = 59.89 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT - D'Oh! me bad! Can't read properly. Chair© is 23 LESS than desk(D) not 23 more like I did. Ignore my answer or your kid is gonna get an F...... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
hotray Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 I'd prefer this way: edit: arggh, Pilotasso edited while I was posting.... Desk = x Lamp = y Chair = z x = 4y; 0.25x =y x - 23 = z substitute y and z into x: x + 0.25x + (x - 23) = 562 2.25x - 23 = 562 2.25x = 585 x = 585 / 2.25 x = 260 Desk 260 Lamp 65 Chair 237 Total 532 :icon_jook blibet suber! ray Swiss Jet Team Movie 2021
peterj Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 A job for the ED fysics modellers ;) I think this works, a = lamp desk = 4a chair = 4a - 23 a + 4a + 4a - 23 = 562 9a = 562 + 23 a = 65 lamp = 65 desk = 260 chair = 237
Atomic978 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Posted December 7, 2005 wow is this what they are teaching kids in school now. I must be getting old. LOL I would of never figured that out. thanks, =RvE=Atomic Alienware Area-51, Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 3.2GHz, 8gig Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram, EVGA SC GTX 570, Western Digital 1.0TB 64mb cache HD. Windows 7 Ultimate 64, Saitek X52 & Saitek Pro Peddals, TrackIR 4 Pro with Track Clip Pro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 A job for the ED fysics modellers ;) LOL I think ED needs more modelrs, you were too slow, last one is a rotten egg hehehe.:icon_madu .
Pilotasso Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 wow is this what they are teaching kids in school now. I must be getting old. LOL I would of never figured that out. thanks, How old is your kid? I also have a younger sister and I get the impression the teachers are giving out problems far to advanced for the kind of the math tools already given to them. My sister used to have this kind of problems when she didnt even knew what an equation was. As you can gess one would scratch the head ALOT in this situation... .
Atomic978 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Posted December 7, 2005 My daughter is in the 5th grade she just turned 11 this last november... =RvE=Atomic Alienware Area-51, Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 3.2GHz, 8gig Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram, EVGA SC GTX 570, Western Digital 1.0TB 64mb cache HD. Windows 7 Ultimate 64, Saitek X52 & Saitek Pro Peddals, TrackIR 4 Pro with Track Clip Pro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
hotray Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 wow is this what they are teaching kids in school now. If you say that 1980 is (was) "now", then yes! :p blibet suber! ray Swiss Jet Team Movie 2021
Atomic978 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Posted December 7, 2005 my older daughter who is 12 is doing allot harder math as she is in gifted program at her school. She gets about 4 hours a day of home work and I look at that stuff like you got to be kidding me. Things have changed over the years. My wife is really smart with math and science and she gets confused on some of the things they bring home as well. =RvE=Atomic Alienware Area-51, Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 3.2GHz, 8gig Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram, EVGA SC GTX 570, Western Digital 1.0TB 64mb cache HD. Windows 7 Ultimate 64, Saitek X52 & Saitek Pro Peddals, TrackIR 4 Pro with Track Clip Pro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Atomic978 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Posted December 7, 2005 sorry for my ignorance I got kicked out of school for being a pain. Got my GED and a good job so I guess I can not complain. For having nothing more the a GED i have a job that I make over 80,000.00 a year so go figure. Allot of guys that have graduated and went further in school have not been as lucky so to say around here. do no take this as I want everybody to quit school. I would go back and do it right if i could. =RvE=Atomic Alienware Area-51, Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 3.2GHz, 8gig Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram, EVGA SC GTX 570, Western Digital 1.0TB 64mb cache HD. Windows 7 Ultimate 64, Saitek X52 & Saitek Pro Peddals, TrackIR 4 Pro with Track Clip Pro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 LOL I think ED needs more modelrs, you were too slow, last one is a rotten egg hehehe. ....and fast but wrong like me :icon_redf :icon_redf gets you no egg at all. I need to quit lunchtime drinking :icon_jook [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
Pilotasso Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 my older daughter who is 12 is doing allot harder math as she is in gifted program at her school. She gets about 4 hours a day of home work and I look at that stuff like you got to be kidding me. Things have changed over the years. My wife is really smart with math and science and she gets confused on some of the things they bring home as well. Wow you got smart kids, congrats. They had the genes from your wife it seems LOL.:biggrin: When I was 12 I hardly did 10 minutes of homework everyday, but then we didnt have anything stimulating as a personal computer like today. I only got a spectrum 48K like I was 12 but it was too primitive to use calculus sheets or any other form of graphical interface. Today kids just wanna model stuff for games . ;) .
Pilotasso Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 ....and fast but wrong like me :icon_redf :icon_redf gets you no egg at all. I need to quit lunchtime drinking :icon_jook LOL ROFLMAO, you know something? you would make a good engineer, we make that kind of kneepad aproximations in 3 secs and just feed it into the simulation program and ITS DONE!!! Welcome to the wonderfull world of engineering (the art of aproximations LOL) Have you considered a carreer like that? Seriously! .
Atomic978 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Posted December 7, 2005 Yes they get if from my wife. LOL. My kids are real smart it is kind of scary. They are learning things in school that I never did. Its fun to see some of the stuff they get and for them to teach me for a change. =RvE=Atomic Alienware Area-51, Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 3.2GHz, 8gig Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram, EVGA SC GTX 570, Western Digital 1.0TB 64mb cache HD. Windows 7 Ultimate 64, Saitek X52 & Saitek Pro Peddals, TrackIR 4 Pro with Track Clip Pro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 ...you would make a good engineer.....etc Pilotasso - that is so funny! I have been a Software engineer on Radar, Air Traffic Control, Military Comms, etc for the last 25 years. You would be hard pressed to fly anywhere in the world and not be within radar coverage with some of my software. Scared yet ? ;) Of course at work, I always take my time and drink a lot less :p Dont worry Pilotasso, you are safe in Portugal, none of my stuff down there. Did a presentation to the Portuguese Air Force back in the late 1980's of an Air Tasking / Mission Planning system I was working on, but they didn't buy it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
Pilotasso Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 I think we went for the Israeli stuff. We got lots of equipment from them...probably because yours was better but we are always short on cash LOL:biggrin: Certainly it is interesting what impact in the world a single engineer can have. Congrats for your software. I can only hope that my future job be as rewarding as that. Untill then I still have a research project before finishing my course. Cheers!:biggrin: :icon_jook .
SuperKungFu Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 My daughter is in the 5th grade she just turned 11 this last november... lol just wait until high school, I'm in my senior year taking 6 ap classes :icon_jook . Math- ap calculus bc...not cool man. Get little or no sleep, but i still manage to squeeze Lock On in there to keep me sane. Thank You ED for creating this game. BTW...my parents and girlfriend hates u lol. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Atomic978 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Posted December 8, 2005 Thanks for all the help guys. Sorry I did not get back on sooner to thank everybody. I work nights so I dont get home to around this time. Thanks again. =RvE=Atomic Alienware Area-51, Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 3.2GHz, 8gig Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram, EVGA SC GTX 570, Western Digital 1.0TB 64mb cache HD. Windows 7 Ultimate 64, Saitek X52 & Saitek Pro Peddals, TrackIR 4 Pro with Track Clip Pro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 lol just wait until high school, I'm in my senior year taking 6 ap classes :icon_jook . Math- ap calculus bc...not cool man. Get little or no sleep, but i still manage to squeeze Lock On in there to keep me sane. Thank You ED for creating this game. BTW...my parents and girlfriend hates u lol. No sleep in high school already? just you wait for university.:icon_hang .
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