Why do British fighter pilots

[Guest IguanaKing]

To britgliderpilot

 

 

 

 

Greeting...

 

I must correct you on certain points. First off, Your Genetic contain French blood. England was conquered by Guillaume of Normandie in 1066. The Hasting battle prove to be a failure to your vaunt heritage(Anglo-Saxon). Most of English lord had French origin after that and your English language roots was altered and modified with French language.

 

Don't mock up the French because they do won most battle than England and UK together + they have done this all the way alone most of the time not like you hiding behind powerful allies. :icon_roll

 

Ummm...politics and your own inferiority complexes aside...what BGP says of the current, and fairly long-standing rivalry between the British and French is true. I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand about that.

[Kula66]

To britgliderpilot

Don't mock up the French because they do won most battle than England and UK together + they have done this all the way alone most of the time not like you hiding behind powerful allies. :icon_roll

 

Ho ho ho ... most of our language may be of French origin, and true 1066 was a bad year for England ... but please! We have only had powerful allies for the last 50years ... we hammered the French all by ourselves for the 850years prior to that!

 

Quickly dives for cover ...

[britgliderpilot]

To britgliderpilot

 

 

Greeting...

 

I must correct you on certain points. First off, Your Genetic contain French blood. England was conquered by Guillaume of Normandie in 1066. The Hasting battle prove to be a failure to your vaunt heritage(Anglo-Saxon). Most of English lord had French origin after that and your English language roots was altered and modified with French language.

 

Don't mock up the French because they do won most battle than England and UK together + they have done this all the way alone most of the time not like you hiding behind powerful allies. :icon_roll

 

British genetics contains everyone's blood . . . . it's what makes us so great, we're a genetic supermix of all the magnificent countries in Europe all rolled into one! :D

 

 

Lighten up a little old chap - I'm very fond of the French, you're taking things a bit too seriously ;)

 

I've always found the who-rules-what bit interesting. France invades England, France takes over England, all of a sudden the Anglicised Frenchmen (now kind of English) decide that they want to take over France because it belonged to them in the first place, go to war for a hundred years and to be honest I really can't remember who won in the end . . . .

 

And now our Royal Family is German, Greek, and French all rolled into one.

I love this country :p

 

 

Anyway - the most fun things occur when everyone's happy and working together - reference sleek and pointy things like Concorde (oh, the politics of the E on the end) and the Jaguar.

[Guest IguanaKing]

I'm not confuse at all, just pointing that what i said is true ,and by no means i was refering the Term ENGLISH to him. I know he's Scotland descent and that's why i said English for England.

 

have a nice day.

 

Got it...I just see far too many people on boards like this making the claim that certain nationalities think they are the best at everything. People only know what they have experienced, and this unavoidable fact is present in all countries. Whoah...I'm getting WAY too serious. :D Anyway, just wanted to say that.

 

Cheers :beer:

[Tovan]

Got it...I just see far too many people on boards like this making the claim that certain nationalities think they are the best at everything. People only know what they have experienced, and this unavoidable fact is present in all countries. Whoah...I'm getting WAY too serious. :D Anyway, just wanted to say that.

 

Cheers :beer:

 

 

Santé or cheers:beer: :icon_jook

[S77th-Basscadet]

before anybody askes IAM WELSH an the Welsh ar better then the so called English :P

[Tovan]

British genetics contains everyone's blood . . . . it's what makes us so great, we're a genetic supermix of all the magnificent countries in Europe all rolled into one! :D

 

**that's great for you..

 

Lighten up a little old chap - I'm very fond of the French, you're taking things a bit too seriously ;)

 

**he's just pointing the fact as it happens long ago, nothing more.

 

I've always found the who-rules-what bit interesting. France invades England, France takes over England, all of a sudden the Anglicised Frenchmen (now kind of English) decide that they want to take over France because it belonged to them in the first place, go to war for a hundred years and to be honest I really can't remember who won in the end . . . .

 

**and that's right they wanted the two crowns, but were halted by Jeanne-d'Arc and her armies.

 

And now our Royal Family is German, Greek, and French all rolled into one.

I love this country :p

 

**and mine is French, German and Scotland. and I love my Province of Quebec.

 

 

Anyway - the most fun things occur when everyone's happy and working together - reference sleek and pointy things like Concorde (oh, the politics of the E on the end) and the Jaguar.

 

**Yeah that's true! I just hope that someday people will respect each other as they are, and to stop insulting others of their difference in Nationality.

[Yautja]

Ho ho ho ... most of our language may be of French origin, and true 1066 was a bad year for England ... but please! We have only had powerful allies for the last 50years ... we hammered the French all by ourselves for the 850years prior to that!

 

Quickly dives for cover ...

 

Mouahahah not only that year was bad for you but the years following since them was bad for you.

 

Ohh i see.... a British forgotting numeous defeat they got in their history. :tongue: Probably British 'Superiority' and Macho-Militarism resurfacing in history times when need..

 

Reminder: The Englishman boasts of himself that he is so tough soldier that he does not know when he is beaten. That's right, impaired judgement and thought process happens to people under stress, especially to fleeing troops. But they were not retreating, oh no. They were advancing in another direction.:icon_lol: Englishman Samuel Johnson: "Our nation may boast, beyond any other people in the world, of a kind of epidemic bravery." :biggrin:

 

a typical example "... the British infantry broke, and throwing down their guns and cartridges,

made for the wagon road, and did the prettiest sort of running !"

- eyewitness at the Battle at Cowpens

 

In 1814 at Berg-op-Zoom the British 55th and 69th Regiment of Foot

advanced in the dark then suddenly broke and fled in a wild panick.

"Not a shot was fired at them, nor was a single Frenchman seen."

(Nafziger - "Imperial Bayonets" 1996 p. 164)

 

Oh yeah need to add that We won so many battle compare to Britain that you pale in comparaison.

[Guest IguanaKing]

Santé or cheers:beer: :icon_jook

 

Zdorove :beer: :biggrin:

[Tovan]

Zdorove :beer: :biggrin:

 

it's in russian?

 

Prost or Auf uns!

[britgliderpilot]

it's in russian?

 

Prost or Auf uns!

 

Let us raise our multinational glasses and toast . . . . I dunno, something symbolic :p

 

 

Cheers, chaps!

[britgliderpilot]

I've always found the who-rules-what bit interesting. France invades England, France takes over England, all of a sudden the Anglicised Frenchmen (now kind of English) decide that they want to take over France because it belonged to them in the first place, go to war for a hundred years and to be honest I really can't remember who won in the end . . . .

 

**and that's right they wanted the two crowns, but were halted by Jeanne-d'Arc and her armies.

 

Ahhh, Joan of Arc, how could I possibly forget?

 

Does anyone else find it slightly ironic that she was played by Mila Jovovic in the recent film?

 

We're going to need a Mila Jovovic Bar logo as well as the Paris Hilton Bar logo soon . . . . whoops, my finger slipped, seem to have posted that one again.

 

 

 

I've forgotten where we started now . . . . oh yes!

British Fighter Pilots and Home Movies Thereof!

 

I did once see some footage from a training mission in the Gulf - Tornado in a canyon.

A very British voice came up on the intercome and said something like "Ah - we should have taken that second left back there, old boy. Poor show, will have to do a U-turn and go back"

 

I forget the exact wording, but it had me grinning with the extreme Britishness of it :p

[Alfa]

British genetics contains everyone's blood . . . .

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I've always found the who-rules-what bit interesting. France invades England, France takes over England...

 

tsk......copy cats :icon_twis

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[Yautja]

British genetics contains everyone's blood . . . . it's what makes us so great, we're a genetic supermix of all the magnificent countries in Europe all rolled into one!

 

We already beat you by a few century since as you said we use supermix genetic blood. France prime blood are Germanic, Celtic, Roman.

 

Lighten up a little old chap - I'm very fond of the French, you're taking things a bit too seriously

 

Cool down a little and i will do mine. If you are what you said stop insulting the French.

 

I've always found the who-rules-what bit interesting. France invades England, France takes over England, all of a sudden the Anglicised Frenchmen (now kind of English) decide that they want to take over France because it belonged to them in the first place, go to war for a hundred years and to be honest I really can't remember who won in the end . . . .

 

Yes we invaded and conquered you and you use a third of French words more or less. Since you have noble French blood it was logical than sooner or later you will come to us but at the 100 years war you strike us when we were weakening from a civil war. It's a cheap way to demonstrate your vaunt power but England are renown for such treacheous record.

At first you and your french bourgogne ally win stunning victories even though we managed initialy to win somes with King Charle V. Only later with Joan of Arc with King Charle VII we managed to crushed and trashed you. AND GUESS WHAT? WE WIN THE 100 YEARS WAR.

 

English biggest victories are Crecy, Agincourt, Poitiers

 

French are: Patay, Orléans, Formigny, battle of thirty, Castillon

I might add that French Knight were the best in Europe with the best plate armor.

 

English arrow has iron tip prove innefective agaisnt french steel plate.

At agincourt it's not directly the arrows that kill us but the horses, thus it trapped beneath them our mens who drown in deep mud and water

Also we were the first to use Cannon in Europe and we use it very well against use inflicting huge losses.

 

Anyway - the most fun things occur when everyone's happy and working together - reference sleek and pointy things like Concorde (oh, the politics of the E on the end) and the Jaguar.

 

Europe can work together but Britain must not have the leadership. Up to now we have stronger companies than you and moreover ours are nationalized and we buy others who are private. example of strong French company: THALES, DCN, GIAT, SAGEM, etc..

I believe France and Germany should lead Europe with Britain second place behind.

[504 Wolverine]

IBTL

 

Welcome to the forums Yautja. It's interesting that you chose your first 3 posts as a member of this forum to have a flamefest. Is this a taste of things to come? ;)

 

My tingling spider scence tells me that this thread is going nowhere.

 

BTW BGP where's my bloody points. :p

[Kula66]

I did once see some footage from a training mission in the Gulf - Tornado in a canyon.

A very British voice came up on the intercome and said something like "Ah - we should have taken that second left back there, old boy. Poor show, will have to do a U-turn and go back"

 

That was funny ... £Ms worth of strike fighter, dedicated navigator, 1000s hours of training, moving map displays, GPS(?), TFR ... and took a wrong turn! Never happen in a Mirage!

[britgliderpilot]

We already beat you by a few century since as you said we use supermix genetic blood. France prime blood are Germanic, Celtic, Roman.

 

 

 

Cool down a little and i will do mine. If you are what you said stop insulting the French.

 

 

 

Yes we invaded and conquered you and you use a third of French words more or less. Since you have noble French blood it was logical than sooner or later you will come to us but at the 100 years war you strike us when we were weakening from a civil war. It's a cheap way to demonstrate your vaunt power but England are renown for such treacheous record.

At first you and your french bourgogne ally win stunning victories even though we managed initialy to win somes with King Charle V. Only later with Joan of Arc with King Charle VII we managed to crushed and trashed you. AND GUESS WHAT? WE WIN THE 100 YEARS WAR.

 

English biggest victories are Crecy, Agincourt, Poitiers

 

French are: Patay, Orléans, Formigny, battle of thirty, Castillon

I might add that French Knight were the best in Europe with the best plate armor.

 

English arrow has iron tip prove innefective agaisnt french steel plate.

At agincourt it's not directly the arrows that kill us but the horses, thus it trapped beneath them our mens who drown in deep mud and water

Also we were the first to use Cannon in Europe and we use it very well against use inflicting huge losses.

 

 

 

Europe can work together but Britain must not have the leadership. Up to now we have stronger companies than you and moreover ours are nationalized and we buy others who are private. example of strong French company: THALES, DCN, GIAT, SAGEM, etc..

I believe France and Germany should lead Europe with Britain second place behind.

 

 

Ahhh, but we have the Viking blood as well ;)

Horned helmets and beserkers, adds that extra je-ne-sais-quoi to the personality ;)

 

 

Seriously mate - I did not mean that alternative name for the French Navy in any kind of derogatory way. I'd like to hope that after living next door to the French for all these years we can make these occasional jokes about each others cultures without it drawing blood . . . . grin.

 

 

Someone else mentioned an inferiority complex a while ago - I'm not in any way trying to put the French down, you don't need to convince me of the French good points!

You seem to be making a lot of excuses for losing while playing up your successes - all this stuff was a very long time ago, and it seems to me like you're a bit hung up on it.

[britgliderpilot]

BTW BGP where's my bloody points. :p

 

 

You get . . . . . a Gold Star!!

 

 

 

Btw, I keep meaning to fiddle around and see if I can make a better Su25UTG mod for v1.11 - did you get the Su25UBM mod in the end?

[S77th-RYKE]

Seriously mate - I did not mean that alternative name for the French Navy in any kind of derogatory way. I'd like to hope that after living next door to the French for all these years we can make these occasional jokes about each others cultures without it drawing blood . . . . grin.

 

there is no other way to see this ...it's derogatory , you called the french frogs, live with it , it's derogatory and insulting ...

 

and BTW I am from the french speaking part of canada and if you think calling people by an "alternative name" doesn't draw blood ....I would like you to come here and start calling people frogs to their faces ...

[Guest IguanaKing]

YIKES!!! Some of you people are FAR too PC, and overly-sensitive. Lets all grow up and take a light-hearted jab for what it is, and not make something more of it. If someone here were to tell the joke about MacGregor the Bridge Builder...would I get my panties in a bunch? No!!! I'd laugh along with it. In fact...I've told the joke many times myself.

 

Again...the inferiority complexes and paranoia rise to the surface over a single, harmless comment. I just don't get it.

[britgliderpilot]

there is no other way to see this ...it's derogatory , you called the french frogs, live with it , it's derogatory and insulting ...

 

and BTW I am from the french speaking part of canada and if you think calling people by an "alternative name" doesn't draw blood ....I would like you to come here and start calling people frogs to their faces ...

 

You've never called someone by a different name as a joke?

 

 

If you see it as derogatory, I apologise again, but I didn't mean it that way.

[Tovan]

YIKES!!! Some of you people are FAR too PC, and overly-sensitive. Lets all grow up and take a light-hearted jab for what it is, and not make something more of it. If someone here were to tell the joke about MacGregor the Bridge Builder...would I get my panties in a bunch? No!!! I'd laugh along with it. In fact...I've told the joke many times myself.

 

Again...the inferiority complexes and paranoia rise to the surface over a single, harmless comment. I just don't get it.

 

It's just that we the French are always insulted by the English, because we are French. Because of our success(maybe some jealousy), Inovation, creation,etc. Though i will never remove what you England had created.

 

From my childhood it was very common to see english people insulting or make fun of French just because we didn't speak the same language, how could you tell us to grown up when you can't?

 

In your example it doesn't interac with us because it's not agains two different cultures, but i understand your point, you must know that it's sensitive in our case.

[Yautja]

Ahhh, but we have the Viking blood as well

Horned helmets and beserkers, adds that extra je-ne-sais-quoi to the personality.

 

Non sense.

 

Seriously mate - I did not mean that alternative name for the French Navy in any kind of derogatory way. I'd like to hope that after living next door to the French for all these years we can make these occasional jokes about each others cultures without it drawing blood . . . . grin.

 

it's done live with it. We can call you by names you won't like as Redneck,Rosbeef,square head etc... but we don't because it's total ingratitude to do so. Think hard next time before insulting like this.

 

 

Someone else mentioned an inferiority complex a while ago - I'm not in any way trying to put the French down, you don't need to convince me of the French good points!

You seem to be making a lot of excuses for losing while playing up your successes - all this stuff was a very long time ago, and it seems to me like you're a bit hung up on it.

 

Ahh because you English never losing battle instead you say things like this:

 

The English authors have a knack of turning defeat into victory in the Dunkirk style. (The catastrophe at Dunkirk was called by many Englishmen as "It is victory!" and was celebrated in speeches, paintings and peomes. History of the "invincible redcoats" is full of such "victories" :icon_roll

 

It was not a particularly hard job as certain English participants of the campaigns denied their own mistakes for reasons of personal and national pride. Wellington refused to write the history of the battle of Waterloo because if he had, he would have had nothing good to say about some of the participants who were celebrated as heroes. Wellington wrote to the Earl of Mulgrave: "If a true history is written, what will become of the reputation of half of those who have acquired reputation, and who deserve it for their gallantry, but who, if their mistakes and casual misconduct were made public, would not be so well thought of?" So maybe the superiority of the British army lies in the English writers self-aggrandizing patriotic jingoism. ...

British Defeats."Reading certain accounts of English mega-prowess at war, you wonder if the English casualties are not all caused by friendly fire."

 

They were defeated not only by the Europeans (between 1750 and 1815 alone they lost more than 60 battles to the French) but also by about everyone they ever fought with; Albanians (Rosetta), Argentinians (Buenos Aires), Americans (Cowpens, New Orleans), Poles (Fuengirola, Albuera), native Indians (Monongahela) etc. etc. French general Souham succeeded in taking the fortress of Nijmegen defended by 30.000 English infantry supported by 1.200 Dutch troops. French GdD Suchet defeated 2 British amphibious expeditions from Sicily against Spain's east coast. And don't forget how Napoleon knocked the stuffing out of gen. Moore and his 'invincibles'. The Brits were not just taken to the cleaners down to the coast by Napoleon's troops, but washed, pressed and sent home in a brown paper bag.

[Wags]

Too bad this thread could not stay light hearted. As usual with any discussion of nationalism, religion, or politics, someone usually gets bent out of shape.

 

-Matt