Monitors

[Subliminal-SS]

Those are 2560x1080, very wide.

3 of those in portrait will provide 3240x2560.

 

The problem with these is that the 1080 pixels width (in portrait) is too narrow, it is like you look at the world through a narrow window.

You can easily try/test with a normal 1920x1080 monitor in portrait mode because it has the same 1080 pixels width.

 

The difference between 1440 and 1080 is significant for this purpose in my opinion.

 

Of course you can do 3 x 1920x1080 in landscape if you want, which is much more cost effective than the higher resolution monitors.

As in everything we should always think about value for our money and what the objective is.

 

Sorin, I'm not sure why but ive never really thought of going up to 1440 but its a 33% increase in the vertical FOV, I think an ultra widescreen monitor on the 1440 vertical would be a good compromise, maybe if we increase the current Ultra Widescreens Horizontal res from 2560 to ~3.5k that would be a pretty sweet prospect

[jay43]

Sorry but I have to say you have a remarkably annoying way of asking for help here where we have an amazingly tolerant and helpful community.

Eg: "Seriously back off dude"

If you were to take the time to reread your posts you might see what I mean!

 

You are obviously referring to signatures such as mine & suggesting that it's size & placement is a means of bragging. And if that is so then it's you that needs to grow up!

For forum members like myself who have posted many setups, videos & profiles, it is a sensible way to avoid the oft repeated "what GPU/CPU/MONITOR etc etc" are you using?

 

So rather than take shots at people who are trying to help (and may well not be using their native language) try using the sig format to investigate your setup and help people to help you.

 

Windows System Information has many of the answers. What is the point of buying 3 moitors if you don't know what graphics card you have as not all can run Multi monitors, & some of those that can will be brought to their knees by DCS.

Hope this is helpful overall!

 

 

Yeah well sorry for that i just get bored of people keep asking i don't know.

Sure my son left me the specs on a sheet of paper some where for this reason buggered if i can find it though.

Well he will be over this weekend so i will have it up unless you know where i need to look to find it.

By the way love that set up you have there altough i don't think i can twist the misses arm anymore than i already am to get 3 screens set up as we share our office maybe i should kick her out as its no longer an office its a simulator.

[jay43]

Can you not just get a 30" 4k Monitor with all you're moneys?

 

I'm assuming your'e PC cost more than 3k at least as I just built mine which as 2.8k and that is not what I would call capable of anything.

 

So the 4k screens should befitting of you're budget right.

http://store.sony.com/c/XBR-4K-TV-Ultra-HD-Resolution/en/c/S_4KTV

 

I like the idea of that but i did try playing on a 32" screen and it was IMO horrible and to close up.

[Loz]

Well he will be over this weekend so i will have it up unless you know where i need to look to find it.

First thing to do is find out the make and model of your graphics card. Easiest way is to take the side off and have a look. Also check how many outputs are on the back of the card. Failing that download and install GPUZ here It's a small program that shows all the details of your GPU.

 

Open up Windows System Information and it will tell you what type of Processor you have and how much RAM is in there. Just Type in the search area under the start button "system information"

That will give you a lot of the info that you need.

 

The easiest setup by far is a straight forward landscape using 3 monitors. You can always try portrait after that.

Been some pretty outrageous suggestions about what to buy (cause you mentioned money is not a problem and some get a bit excited about that LOL)

I would recommend some reasonable priced IPS monitiors.

These from Overclockers are great value, have a small bezel and probably more importantly are IPS monitors. These give better colour and clarity than standard TPN monitors and give a far better off angle view, which is important when using 3 together where you are going to angle inwards the outer two. I can certainly recommend these as my son has just bought a second one.

 

On the other hand if you want to go silly with your money these 27inch 2560x14440 would be really nice especially in portrait.

Hey but if you are going that far then why not get a fourth like mine and make it a touchscreen monitor as well. That would really make it a sim and get your missus going. LOL

 

But seriously you could spend buckets on Monitors and displays but unless you've got a seriously fast CPU you'd be wasting your money and time as DCS would run like a slide show.

[SkateZilla]

or just download and Run GPU-Z.

 

It will tell you the GPU Series, the manufacturer, how many Shaders, and Bios version, speeds, etc

[Sorin]

Can you not just get a 30" 4k Monitor with all you're moneys?

 

I'm assuming your'e PC cost more than 3k at least as I just built mine which as 2.8k and that is not what I would call capable of anything.

 

So the 4k screens should befitting of you're budget right.

http://store.sony.com/c/XBR-4K-TV-Ultra-HD-Resolution/en/c/S_4KTV

 

jay43 mentioned in the first post that his budget is 1500 GBP... which is not even close to $5000.

 

Also such monitor would provide 3840x2160 at $5000 which is quite short of 4320x2560 that can be done with 3 x 2560x1440 at about $2000.

 

The 4K hardware will get to more reasonable prices in time and then they will be quite interesting.

[jay43]

Ok cool so found out my GPU is a Geforce GTX 570.

Under this bit wether this is of importance or not i don't know.

GeForce Experience 1.1 Release Highlights:

Now supports optimized settings for 55 games, including BioShock Infinite, Tomb Raider, Crysis 3, and SimCity

Adds optimized game settings for SLI PCs

Adds optimized game settings for 2048x1152 and 2560x1080 resolutions

Improves feedback message for PCs that do not meet system requirements

Improves first-run game scan experience

Improves update experience for the GeForce Experience application

Improves feedback categories

Includes numerous performance optimizations and bug fixes

 

Also my processor is Intel ® Core i5 - 2500K CPU @ 3.30 GHz

Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB

System type: 64- Bit OS

System rating according to windows is 7.5 not sure if that even means anyhting at all.

Also 2 SSD's both Intel 1 120g and 1 40g plus a 1 TB hard drive not sure of make have to find that out.

From what i can make out the GPU has 4 ports on the back 2 Dvi and 2 HDMi.

Logi G400 mouse and the G510 keyboard and the obvious TM Warthog stick.

Edited April 25, 2013 by jay43

[cichlidfan]

Ok cool so found out my GPU is a Geforce GTX 570.

 

Your son was wrong.

 

...I can assure you it is well within spec i can run 6 screens if i want to. ...

 

Two screens max with this card.

[jay43]

Your son was wrong.

 

 

 

Two screens max with this card.

 

I get the feeling this weekend is going to be good for me as my son is going to get a kicking :mad:

[jay43]

So i need a bigger GPU then or what i bet he kept it for himself and put his one in mine grrrrr.

[SkateZilla]

it's not the size or power of the GPU, it's the Series/Model.

 

nVidia GPUs didnt support more than 2 screens until the 600 Series

[Subliminal-SS]

I would say then the best thing for you is to go for the ultra Widescreen monitor.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-066-DE&groupid=17&catid=1120

 

1)AFAIK there are no 1440 Vertical Resolution UltraWidescreen monitors.

2)There will be "issues" with putting 3 screens on you're PC Especially 3 1440P monitors. (SLI another GTX 570 of course and that changes)

3) The simplest and easiest to configure would be an Ultra Widescreen Monitor i.e. plug and play.

 

The 4k Suggestion wasn't a Joke, I can genuinely see them coming in at around 1,500 this year sometime maybe start of next year. :thumbup:

 

HDTVs went from ~5k TVs to mainstream production in about 12 months. As in <£1000

 

You could get them for £1.5-£2k quite easily during that move to mainstream phase.

 

I'm patiently holding out for an Oculus Rift type VR with a good screen so there is no reason that a little patience cant be had. Were on the last few development cycles of the 1080p era for PC and high End TV monitors now in my best guesstimates. Heck Smartphones are entering the realm of 1080p. IMHO investing anything over £500 in anything at this stage is in 12 months time going to be either gathering dust or for the less well off a big financial sucker punch.

 

Just my thoughts of course I mean it may depend heavily on the next gen consoles, if they are capable of outputting at >1080p we may see a shift, if they are as shit as the current gen consoles that max out at like 720p 99% of the time then it would quite possibly just be 4 years of ripping people off with headlines of IPS and LED or various other technologies only being semi utilized with 1080-1440p resolutions.

Edited April 25, 2013 by Subliminal-SS

[jay43]

it's not the size or power of the GPU, it's the Series/Model.

 

nVidia GPUs didnt support more than 2 screens until the 600 Series

 

 

Ok so i just got off the phone to him and gave him an ear bashing, he reacons that you're all talkin i won't say it but he said his friend is running 3 27" screens on it right now and playing BF3 perhaps its ok for this game but not DCS.

I think i will get him to buy the screens and install them then when the game don't work he don't get paid lol.

[SkateZilla]

I've been building systems for 20 years. Just sayin'

[cichlidfan]

Ok so i just got off the phone to him and gave him an ear bashing, he reacons that you're all talkin i won't say it but he said his friend is running 3 27" screens on it right now and playing BF3 perhaps its ok for this game but not DCS.

 

The game does not matter. The card has three ports, but the HDMI replaces one of the two DVI ports if you use it. The card is physically incapable of providing output on all three ports simultaneously.

 

EDIT: Btw, the size of the monitors (in inches) is irrelevant. The resolution is the only thing that matters.

Edited April 25, 2013 by cichlidfan

[Subliminal-SS]

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/3dvision-surround/system-requirements

 

Gives a good insight into how multi monitor configurations can be setup. Ignore the 3d vision surround bit and focus on 2d Surround.

 

Notice the GTX 570 only has the option for 2,3 or 4 way SLI. I.e. more than one Graphics card.

 

Whereas if you change the Card model up to 670 or any 600 series it allows you to choose Single GPU.

 

That means only those cards will support 3 or >3 monitors. There needs to be 2 GTX 570s for 3 monitors.

 

Having said that lets not all jump on you're son. Its around £200 for another GTX 570.

So you are still well well within you're original budget.

 

And just to note, BF3 is most definitely not DCS world hehe. Far more complex, and less optimized in certain areas (that are being worked on of course):thumbup:

[SkateZilla]

there's always TripleHead2Go:megalol::megalol:

[Loz]

or just download and Run GPU-Z.

 

It will tell you the GPU Series, the manufacturer, how many Shaders, and Bios version, speeds, etc

 

LOL I already said that in my post !!!

 

So Jay it looks like you'll probably have to get another GPU if you want triple screens. :(

Edited April 25, 2013 by Loz

[jay43]

Right so now i have calmed down a bit best not to post when in rage lol.

 

So guys listening to those who have played this game for a long time.

Whats my best option get another GTX 570, or upgrade to a say GTX 690 that seems to be their highest or any of the 600 series as they all appear to me that they will run 3 screens in surround mode i think.

 

I really like these http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003NAL4UO/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0SBQH2R8TR1J3VNMMFZG&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=358549767&pf_rd_i=468294

Which from a reveiw i watched and please correct me if i am wrong they only use 1 dvi port on the graphics card as they daisy chain themselves together some how.

[Sorin]

Cannot "daisy chain" with DVI.

But it should work with Display Port: http://www.displayport.org/faq/

"DisplayPort v1.2, supports monitor daisy chaining."

 

On the other hand you pay a lot for the factory built 3 monitors solution. Just compare the total price with similar 23" 1920x1080 monitors with Display Port.

[jay43]

Cannot "daisy chain" with DVI.

But it should work with Display Port: http://www.displayport.org/faq/

"DisplayPort v1.2, supports monitor daisy chaining."

 

On the other hand you pay a lot for the factory built 3 monitors solution. Just compare the total price with similar 23" 1920x1080 monitors with Display Port.

 

 

Sorry Sorin thats my fault the daisy chaining i was refering to was only for the controller to controll each screen its on some sort of usb daisy chain.

The only reason i was looking at the Samsung set up there was the fact that it has super slim bezels plus a stand which once built it is configured almost perfectly.

Also gives me the option of adding 3 more screens to it later on to have 6 cough cough once i have sorted out my graphics card problem.

[Loz]

Right so now i have calmed down a bit best not to post when in rage lol.

 

So guys listening to those who have played this game for a long time.

Whats my best option get another GTX 570, or upgrade to a say GTX 690 that seems to be their highest or any of the 600 series as they all appear to me that they will run 3 screens in surround mode i think.

 

Don't bother with the GTX690 specifically for DCS as I'm pretty sure (someone here will have one and will correct me if I'm wrong) that it will only use one of the GPU's. DCS does not scale well with multi GPU's. And if you are serious about 6 screens (although you'll want a new CPU if you want any decent framerates with that amount of resolution) think carefully about what GPU you do get. Not many will manage 6 screens at the moment. With the eventual arrival of a display port Hub (if ever) then more would be capable but going beyond 4/5 monitors requires some seriousl kit.

[Sorin]

Yes, that is a nice factory built 3 monitors setup. But it is way too expensive in my opinion.

3 monitors of the same size and resolution would cost only 353 GBP (117 each) instead of 1550 GBP.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-S23B300-23-inch-Widescreen/dp/B0077L2JZ4/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1366992622&sr=1-6

[metalnwood]

Yes, of course it is a screenshot. I wish I could do it with projectors and have no bezels but I do not have the room for that.

 

I never understand why people who are against running TV's are quite happy to want to run projectors? You will only get an even lower pixel density than a tv without the picture quality you will get on a tv, even in optimal lighting conditions.

 

Jay, I dont want to move you to TV's if you dont want to but you may not have had your 32" set up properly hence why it looked awful. A lot are running 40" plus, even triple 40"+ with excellent results. They look really good and certainly better than a projector. I run 3x42" screens in portrait landscape portrait. Thats a much bigger pixel density than any projector will do. Also latency is good on a lot of TV's. Latest test have shown that some projectors, e.g. panasonics can have much larger latency.

 

The advice about not getting a 690 is good, a 680 will do just as well for DCS.

 

Perhaps ask your son to install something like a corsair hydro unit and get your cpu overclocked to ~4.5G. DCS will like you for it with triples.

[Sorin]

metalnwood I was mentioning projectors in the context of "no bezels".

 

Also you should see a good projector with a proper screen and light controlled room.

My home theater projector certainly looks better than most TVs I have seen so far, especially considering the 106" image.

 

The biggest problem with projectors are that they require a lot of room and must be used in the dark in order to get the best image. Also at about $2500 for a decent one they are not cheap at all.