tads Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 Whilst I like this part of the simulation having to rely on visual tracking on all SAMS is pretty unrealistic.I know first and foremost this is a flight sim,but if you offer a module that portrays realistic vehicles but not the sytems it's all downhill. Radar is supposed to return target bearing altitude and speed,is it really that hard a LUA script cant do this.? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znBi8Lr35vs
Robin_Hood Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 Couldn't the F10 map in Fog of war mode do that ? Ennemy in range = appearing on the map = you can click and have info on it. Or does it only work with airborne radars ? 2nd French Fighter Squadron
pepin1234 Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Whilst I like this part of the simulation having to rely on visual tracking on all SAMS is pretty unrealistic. You right, but all should be made step by step, our Sim is a really complex software and everything is made, should be tested. If ED do all what we like in one update, then every improvement will take so long. I think they are do it good. I know first and foremost this is a flight sim,but if you offer a module that portrays realistic vehicles but not the sytems it's all downhill. I think is imposible for a little company do everything in a high level of simulation. I believe that the new politic is open for the 3rd Parties, so if someone have an interesting proyect, ED could do a contract. Radar is supposed to return target bearing altitude and speed,is it really that hard a LUA script cant do this.? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znBi8Lr35vs The 1.2.4 is made to do something like that. 1- early warning radar on 2- mediun and short range SAMs in silence. 3- is a new tool in the Editor, name Heading Manual, so maybe we can heading and aim the target and wait till they are in the non return zone, then silence mode off and fire. Edited May 3, 2013 by pepin1234 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tads Posted May 3, 2013 Author Posted May 3, 2013 Couldn't the F10 map in Fog of war mode do that ? Ennemy in range = appearing on the map = you can click and have info on it. Or does it only work with airborne radars ? Some of the multiplayer servers don't have anything enabled when in F10 view you only get the map view and that's it,so trying to figure out where enemy fighters are it's near impossible to track especially if your a ground unit SAM. Its hard enough trying to visually track something say at a distance of over 5 km,if the jet is going over 400-450 this leaves a window of only seconds to identify track and launch.
tads Posted May 3, 2013 Author Posted May 3, 2013 You right, but all should be made step by step, our Sim is a really complex software and everything is made, should be tested. If ED do all what we like in one update, then every improvement will take so long. I think they are do it good. I think is imposible for a little company do everything in a high level of simulation. I believe that the new politic is open for the 3rd Parties, so if someone have an interesting proyect, ED could do a contract. The 1.2.4 is made to do something like that. 1- early warning radar on 2- mediun and short range SAMs in silence. 3- is a new tool in the Editor, name Heading Manual, so maybe we can heading and aim the target and wait till they are in the non return zone, then silence mode off and fire. You right, but all should be made step by step, our Sim is a really complex software and everything is made, should be tested. If ED do all what we like in one update, then every improvement will take so long. I think they are do it good. I think is imposible for a little company do everything in a high level of simulation. I believe that the new politic is open for the 3rd Parties, so if someone have an interesting proyect, ED could do a contract. The 1.2.4 is made to do something like that. 1- early warning radar on 2- mediun and short range SAMs in silence. 3- is a new tool in the Editor, name Heading Manual, so maybe we can heading and aim the target and wait till they are in the non return zone, then silence mode off and fire. Sure pepin1234,the way the sim/module is now (CA)I think the SAM units could have a little more edge when detecting aircraft.Having to manually track something at a range of a few km is a real pain,but when these units are under AI,the AI engages at a far greater distance? I know it's impossible to implement every feature or turn ideas into some kind of wishlist,I totally respect your post and will continue to use and enjoy CA,thanks for your reply. Looking forward to the next update
Grimes Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 Some of the multiplayer servers don't have anything enabled when in F10 view Combined Arms actually has its own F10 view settings. If the server is limited to allied view or lower, CA players should be getting Fog of War, while aircraft get whatever the view settings are forced to . It is fairly easy to get a BRA of a potential target, the problem is we can't output text to individual CA players via scripting. It basically has to go to the entire friendly team. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
Pap Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 There is no in envelope/in range calculation for SAMs.:( I hope one day will be.:smilewink: Pap
pepin1234 Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) There is no in envelope/in range calculation for SAMs.:( I hope one day will be.:smilewink: Pap When you lock on, you already get a range calculation, down/left in the monitor. PD: Any way if what you like is know the range of an inbound target ( with non lock on ), the range is calculate inside the F-10 view using the Distance tool. 1- Distance tool on 2- Right click over the SAM position, you will see a line that calculate the distance and azimuth 3- Then, at the same time, left click over the target and you get the altitud/speed/heading in the target menu info ( down/Left in the monitor ) The only thing is not yet implemented is the elevation. Edited May 4, 2013 by pepin1234 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pap Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 When you lock on, you already get a range calculation, down/left in the monitor I know that but this is not in range indication,just only the range of the target. In envelope/in range indication besides the range needs the velocities of target and the missile,altitude,maximum missile flight time capability (basically) . We have them all in A2A missiles,why not to SAMs...:( Pap
pepin1234 Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 I know that but this is not in range indication,just only the range of the target. In envelope/in range indication besides the range needs the velocities of target and the missile,altitude,maximum missile flight time capability (basically) . We have them all in A2A missiles,why not to SAMs...:( Pap See my PD above [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pap Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 See my PD above I read your edited PD above.So?Am I missing something ....or my post is not referred/approaches to the in envelope/in range calculation ?:huh: Pap
pepin1234 Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 I read your edited PD above.So?Am I missing something ....or my post is not referred/approaches to the in envelope/in range calculation ?:huh: Pap To do what you want ED should make more code and with what I have say you before, is good enough at the moment. You should know the capability of your SAM ( Radar tracking range/missile range/missile speed, is enough ). If we ask for a high level of simulation we should have too a good level of knowledge of our hardware... Try and practice the way I have say you before, but try do it with a human pilot, that work :smilewink: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pap Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 To do what you want ED should make more code and with what I have say you before, is good enough at the moment. You should know the capability of your SAM ( Radar tracking range/missile range/missile speed, is enough ). If we ask for a high level of simulation we should have too a good level of knowledge of our hardware... Try and practice the way I have say you before, but try do it with a human pilot, that work :smilewink: For sure has ED to make more code,besides we invest money,they made us dreaming... After 20 years in ADA Units (hawk,OSA,tor-m1 and Asrad Hellas stingers) I though that all you suggest to me it was a part of FCC solution and my job was to evaluate the threat and push the red botton... Now sir I have to star from the beginning ...:poster_oops: :smilewink: Pap
pepin1234 Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 For sure has ED to make more code,besides we invest money,they made us dreaming... After 20 years in ADA Units (hawk,OSA,tor-m1 and Asrad Hellas stingers) I though that all you suggest to me it was a part of FCC solution and my job was to evaluate the threat and push the red botton... Now sir I have to star from the beginning ...:poster_oops: :smilewink: Pap :doh::doh::doh: When and where you start again I dont care. I have gave you some tipps and you answer me you were 100 years in ADA bla bla bla. If you are an expert, and you like compare your OSA, Tor-m1 and try to bring to our community your extensive knowledge I am sure you are wellcome, but let me tell you the CA is not a DCS Tor-m1 and a DCS OSA. If you like something like that, is not enough 20 years in ADA Units, also take other 20 years to be a good programmer and then you can show us and to ED how is the best way to do a software :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pap Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 :doh::doh::doh When and where you start again I dont care. I have gave you some tipps and you answer me you were 100 years in ADA bla bla bla. If you are an expert, and you like compare your OSA, Tor-m1 and try to bring to our community your extensive knowledge I am sure you are wellcome, but let me tell you the CA is not a DCS Tor-m1 and a DCS OSA. If you like something like that, is not enough 20 years in ADA Units, also take other 20 years to be a good programmer and then you can show us and to ED how is the best way to do a software :D[/quote I sent the first post here identifying a real issue and expressed expectations for a promising simulator.that was the reason I've spent money to preparchase CA.So i never put my "knowledge" for the ADA bla bla as an offer or ask for tips. You , out of the blue, gave your answers on issues concerning ED.Are you ED moder or something ?If yes, thank you for your warm welcoming !If no, from whom you get the authority to be aggressive on me.I have the right to be in the forum and to ask everything I believe good for a better CA. If you believe that the forum is a closed club you are wrong and I don't accept this. You have to understand that you have the right only to contribute with knowledge to a real issue on the table if you can,leaving all the other assumptions to the pertinent ED people. I feel sad but I stay tuned...:mad: Pap
pepin1234 Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 :doh::doh::doh When and where you start again I dont care. I have gave you some tipps and you answer me you were 100 years in ADA bla bla bla. If you are an expert, and you like compare your OSA, Tor-m1 and try to bring to our community your extensive knowledge I am sure you are wellcome, but let me tell you the CA is not a DCS Tor-m1 and a DCS OSA. If you like something like that, is not enough 20 years in ADA Units, also take other 20 years to be a good programmer and then you can show us and to ED how is the best way to do a software :D[/quote I sent the first post here identifying a real issue and expressed expectations for a promising simulator.that was the reason I've spent money to preparchase CA.So i never put my "knowledge" for the ADA bla bla as an offer or ask for tips. You , out of the blue, gave your answers on issues concerning ED.Are you ED moder or something ?If yes, thank you for your warm welcoming !If no, from whom you get the authority to be aggressive on me.I have the right to be in the forum and to ask everything I believe good for a better CA. If you believe that the forum is a closed club you are wrong and I don't accept this. You have to understand that you have the right only to contribute with knowledge to a real issue on the table if you can,leaving all the other assumptions to the pertinent ED people. I feel sad but I stay tuned...:mad: Pap exactly good luck [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pap Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 exactly good luck So you agree/accept everything written in the previous post ! I don't care about what concerns you and what relation you have created here. I do really care about the ED rules and their opinion about it. My fried, I never leave the things to be driven by luck.Never.
pepin1234 Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) So you agree/accept everything written in the previous post ! I don't care about what concerns you and what relation you have created here. I do really care about the ED rules and their opinion about it. My fried, I never leave the things to be driven by luck.Never. Man stop, and enjoy the sim. You wil see, all what you like you will get in the next few years. I am hopeful. Edited May 7, 2013 by pepin1234 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pap Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) Man stop, and enjoy the sim. You wil see, all what you like you will get in the next few years. I am hopeful. This "mode" is called Faults Radiation in ADA world,you are ready but secure from HARMS . Better than to have you're radar shut off.Waiting next years to see this feature to CA too. You see i am hopeful too, but some pressure could push things to go forward in the correct direction in CA world I mean. My friend the correct word is not "stop" but let's call it a day,even if it is here midnight. regards,Pap._ :) Edited May 4, 2013 by Pap
Lord_Pyro Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 When launching a missile (tor or osa) i have to manually guide it via mouse or joystick. Is there a way to let the radar guide the missile? It is not so cool to manually maintain the target in the crosshair, it's almost impossible. So can i somehow switch to tadarguidance? [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70340_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
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