phant Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 ...l'Eurofighter sarà implementato con i sistemi semplificati perchè molti di questi sono ancora classificati... Fonte? ...parliamo di una macchina degli anni '70 con tutto ciò che questo comporta a livello di avionica, sistemi , modello di volo , ecc....., certamente non paragonabili a quelle odierne che sono notoriamente molto più complesse... Non è scontato, a livello di sviluppo/programmazione, che riprodurre un'interfaccia prettamente analogica sia più semplice che riprodurne una prettamente digitale. Bye Phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Dell'ef l'ha detto ells in una delle prime risp... Ma é ovvio, nemmeno l'a10 é pienamente implementato così come il ka-50. Invece sono pienamente d'accordo con phant riguardo al mig-21... Soprattutto perché hanno fatto un radar. Per il reato boh... Sicuro ci son andati pesanti con nel ipotetiche previsioni. Sull'hawk l'unica cosa che ho imparato dai vari thread é che non é un velivolo che può fare rifornimento in volo. (Non che mi interessi in particolare che lo possa fare o meno) Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Tigre_ Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Non è scontato, a livello di sviluppo/programmazione, che riprodurre un'interfaccia prettamente analogica sia più semplice che riprodurne una prettamente digitale. Bye Phant Certamente , però le funzioni di un radar AA moderno sono immensamente superiori rispetto ad uno degli anni settanta e evidentemente per fare un lavoro diciamo sui livelli dell' A-10/Ka-50 per l' AG occorre implementarle come si conviene. Poi chiaramente si può seguire anche una linea analoga a quella presente in FC3 e farlo semplificato , dipende sempre da cosa si vuole fare a livello di fedeltà del prodotto , compatibilmente con quelle che sono le disponibilità della documentazione necessaria per realizzarlo , leggasi documenti e funzionalità classificate e quindi non accessibili. Diciamo che dichiarare già in partenza che il modulo dell' EFA sarà semplificato non è certo un bel biglietto da visita , così come fare la stessa cosa per il modello di volo dell' Hawk , poi ovviamente ognuno ha le sue opionioni.... :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Diciamo che dichiarare già in partenza che il modulo dell' EFA sarà semplificato non è certo un bel biglietto da visita , così come fare la stessa cosa per il modello di volo dell' Hawk , poi ovviamente ognuno ha le sue opionioni.... :thumbup: Spetta spetta, non ha detto che sarà "semplificato". Ha detto questo, che è leggermente diverso: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2084198&postcount=9 Peraltro io non mi sono mai illuso di aver volato un sim di Ka-50 perfettamente fedele al vero, sebbene nessuno ha dichiarato il contrario, così come i nostri compagni dell' A-10 sanno benissimo che è soggetto alle stesse limitazioni. Gli unici mezzi che, FORSE, possono essere simulati in maniera totalmente realistica dai sistemi alle caratteristiche del modello di volo sono probabilmente quelli cui nulla è in assoluto più coperto da segreto o quelli non impiegati in ambito militare (addestratori?)... ed ho la speranza che il 21 sia uno di questi così come l'AH-1G (e non me fanno il P :cry:), anche se con i russi.. mah. Detto ciò, nemmeno a me fa molta fiducia l'idea di simulare un velivolo come l'EF in cui, per forza di cose, saranno coperti da segreto molti più aspetti in confronto ad un mezzo che è in giro da un bel po'. Il loro vero biglietto da visita sarà l' Hawk, ovviamente una volta uscito l'EFM... lì si dovrebbe capire se sono in gamba o molta fuffa. Così come Leatherneck, per quanto evidentemente questi ultimi sono stati più bravi nel far scegliere cosa far vedere e cosa no... (se no presumibilmente non prenderei day-1 il Mig-21 pur sapendo che continuerò a volare elicottero finché ce ne saranno simulati :D) Edited July 22, 2014 by chromium Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clafly Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Sarà una bella domenica questa :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 DCS: F-86F Sabre - Coming July 2014! We know many of your are on pins and needles regarding the release of DCS: F-86F Sabre. I'm happy to report that the Pre-Purchase with open beta access will be be available this Saturday, July 26th, 2014. Bye Phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBS_Nero Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 E si ci siamo quasi,dopo tante e tante cose, siamo prossimi all'uscita.. aspettatevi qualcosa di veramente interessante... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS SQ° Italia Virtual Black Sheep VBS Fan Page Facebook You Tube Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 DCS World 1.2.9 Preliminary Change Log Please note that version 1.2.9 was created simply to launch DCS: F-86F Sabre and DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora. We also hope to see some new third party projects released 1.2.9. As such, this version is NOT intended as bug fixing version... that will be for DCS World 2.0.0. Items: • DCS: F-86F Sabre release • New MiG-15bis AI aircraft • Oculus DK2 support • Fixed label visibility for external view saved being carried over from previous multiplayer sessions • Logitech G940 joystick trimming repaired • Added additional radio frequencies to each airfield to support F-86F and Fw 190 D-9 radios • Corrected rear gun aiming for the Tu-22M3 • Corrected A-10A HUD jittering when firing the gun • Corrected mission 8 of the Ka-50 Deployment Campaign Bye Phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Ok, perlomeno è chiaro su cosa dobbiamo aspettarci: 1. nessun bugfix fino ad EDGE (presumo salvo la 1.2.9 renda il tutto inutilizzabile, cosa che dubito) 2. il Dora esce con la 1.2.9 Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Tigre_ Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Usciti sia la 1.2.9 che il Sabre : DCS F-86F Sabre : http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/modules/sabre/ DCS World 1.2.9.30604.475-336 : http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/dcs_world/ Il Dora invece sarà disponibile dal 5 Agosto: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/modules/dora/ :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelmo Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Qualcuno di voi ha già compiuto il battesimo del volo con quest'ultimo uccellino? Cosa ne pensate? Io purtroppo per cause di forza maggiore non potrò volare virtualmente fino a fine novembre.. Intel i9-13900K, @5.8GHz, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master, 32GB DDR5 6200 DomPlatinum, GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24G, LG 48GQ900-B, 4x 2TB Crucial P5plus M2 SSD NVME, 1x 500GB WD SN850 SSD NVME ,Thermaltake ToughPower GF3 1650W ATX 3.0 , Windows 11 Pro, Corsair AiO H170i LCD RGB, TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster Warthog, VPC Mongoos T-50CM3 Base, Thrustmaster MFD Cougar, MFG CROSSWIND, Corsair K95 Platinum, Sennheiser G 600, Roccat Kone Mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKD Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Qualcuno di voi ha già compiuto il battesimo del volo con quest'ultimo uccellino? Cosa ne pensate? Io purtroppo per cause di forza maggiore non potrò volare virtualmente fino a fine novembre.. Bello, almeno per quello che ne capisco, poi ho visto un mig-15 abbattere un f-15c con i cannoncini.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker0ne Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Bello, almeno per quello che ne capisco, poi ho visto un mig-15 abbattere un f-15c con i cannoncini.... Nella guerra di Corea è capitato che un Seafire (versione navalizzata dello Spitfire) abbattesse un MiG-15, certo non era la regola ma è capitato. SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKD Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Nella guerra di Corea è capitato che un Seafire (versione navalizzata dello Spitfire) abbattesse un MiG-15, certo non era la regola ma è capitato. Sarà, ma qui mi è parso un problema di AI completamente idiota....mi sembra di aver letto spesso di grossi limiti di dcs per quanto riguarda l'AI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) EDIT Edited August 6, 2014 by phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Come anticipato stanno facendo patch per il rilascio dei singoli velivoli, prima di EDGE: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2139031&postcount=8 With 1.2.10 version the Fw 190 D-9 is available for downlod! DCS: Fw 190 D-9 release Updated 3d models of B8V20 rocket launcher F-86F. Slightly modified wing induced drag F-86F. The range rotary will work by joystick F-86F. The 3 Interior Lights knobs are added in Input assignments F-86F. The inverted wheel brake animation are fixed F-86F. Oxygen will not ON at cold start F-86 Master Arm/Weapons Selector will not in GUNS position at cold start New incockpit touch sound MiG-15 3d model was updated. Update German encyclopedia Qualche fix c'è, ma giustamente avendo detto che la prima release in cui saranno effettuati dei bug-fix è la 2.0.0 non è che dovremmo aspettarci nulla in merito per il momento. Edited August 6, 2014 by chromium Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKD Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Come anticipato stanno facendo patch per il rilascio dei singoli velivoli, prima di EDGE: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2139031&postcount=8 Qualche fix c'è, ma giustamente avendo detto che la prima release in cui saranno effettuati dei bug-fix è la 2.0.0 non è che dovremmo aspettarci nulla in merito per il momento. Esiste già l'aggiornamento? perchè a me non aggiorna nulla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBS_Nero Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 tra un paio d'ore sara' disponibile.. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS SQ° Italia Virtual Black Sheep VBS Fan Page Facebook You Tube Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKD Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 tra un paio d'ore sara' disponibile.. Grazie per l'informazione. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Mi-8MTV bonus clarification Following the early discount of Mi-8MTV2, we offered a 70% discount of a future DCS product to those that purchased it full price release. To clarify, this is only in regards to DCS products developed by Eagle Dynamics and BST. We cannot dictate discounts to our other partners. Sorry for any confusion. Bye Phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Some Work In Progress (WIP) preview images of Combined Arms (CA) in DCS World 2.0. CA will continue to improve with new sounds, vehicle intercom messages, new and realistic sights, and improved interface. CA will particularly shine with the release of upcoming maps. These images include upcoming Depth of Field and Lens Effects that can be turned on and off in Options. FONTE: https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/posts/10154600387475341 Bye Phant Edited September 2, 2014 by phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) DCS Autumn Sale is On! Massive Savings! From September 4th to September 16th, we will be running our Autumn DCS Sale. We hope you will use these great deals to fill out your stable of DCS modules. DCS: Flaming Cliffs 3: $39.99 to $11.99 (70% off) DCS: A-10C Warthog: $39.99 to $11.99 (70% off) DCS: Black Shark 2: $39.99 to $11.99 (70% off) DCS: Combined Arms: $19.99 to $5.99 (70% off) DCS: UH-1H Huey: $49.99 to $14.99 (70% off) DCS: P-51D Mustang: $29.99 to $11.99 (60% off) DCS: Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight: 49.99 to $24.99 (50% off) F-15C for DCS World: $9.99 to $4.99 (50% off) A-10A for DCS World: $9.99 to $4.99 (50% off) Su-25 for DCS World: $9.99 to $4.99 (50% off) DCS: F-86F Sabre: $49.99 to $39.99 (20% off) DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora: $49.99 to $39.99 (20% off) Pre-purchase DCS: Bf 109 K-4 Kurfürst! The Fighter Collection and Eagle Dynamics are happy to announce that DCS: Bf 109 K-4 Kurfürst is now available as a pre-purchase from the DCS E-Shop The pre-purchase provides both a 20% discount off the retail price and access to the Open Beta coming later this year. Like previous DCS World titles, DCS: Bf 109 K-4 Kurfürst features a painstakingly reproduced model of the aircraft, including the external model, fully interactive cockpit, mechanical systems, and a Professional Flight Model (PFM). Along the lines of our DCS: P-51D Mustang and DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora titles, DCS: Bf 109K-4 Kurfürst places you behind the controls of a powerful, propeller-driven, piston engine combat aircraft. Designed long before "fly-by-wire" technology was available to assist the pilot in flight control or smart bombs and beyond visual range missiles were developed to engage targets with precision from afar, the Kurfürst is a personal and exhilarating challenge to master. Powerful and deadly, the last production model of the only single-engined German fighter to see service throughout World War II, the Kurfürst provides an exhilarating combat experience to its drivers, and a worthy challenge to all fans of DCS: P-51D Mustang. Key Features of the DCS: Bf 109 K-4 Kurfürst: Unmatched flight physics that allow you to truly feel what it's like to fly this legend. Highly detailed, six-degrees-of-freedom (6 DOF) cockpit. Interact with cockpit controls with your mouse. Accurate Bf 109 K-4 model, squadron markings, and weapons. Detailed modelling the Bf 109 K-4 instruments, weapons, engine, radios, fuel, and electrical systems. Fly along with fellow DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Doras as you battle DCS: P-51D Mustangs in single and multiplayer games. Sabre and Dora Update Over the past month we released two pre-purchase modules, with access to Open Betas, for DCS World: DCS: F-86F Sabre and DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora. We are carefully reading your feedback and we and Belsimtek (Sabre Team) are busy improving the projects. This includes not only bug fixes, but also new content such as interactive training missions and campaigns. This is not to say that work is not continuing on other previously released projects. For example: Work on the manual for the DCS: Mi-8MTV2 and tuning of the F-15C professional flight model continues, also various adjustments and bug fixes are in work. DCS World War II: Europe 1944 Update If you have not done so already, you can view our current listing of rewards here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2112208&postcount=1 For backers, you can use the updated Backer Page to select your aircraft of choice based on your contribution level: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128080 In addition to the release of DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, the team is also plugging away on the next aircraft for the series: DCS: Bf 109 K-4 Kurfürst. This is being done internally by Eagle Dynamics to the same exacting standards of the Dora. The pre-purchase with 20% discount is now available and we plan to make the Open Beta available in the October – November time frame. Other warbirds in work for this project include both the P-47D and Spitfire. These will be welcome additions to the growing stable of Second World War aircraft as we flesh out this era of air combat. The other major element of DCS World War II: Europe 1944 is of course the new Normandy map. The team is currently working on a new combat theater map to support DCS: F/A-18C Hornet, but once complete, will be returning to this map. At that time, we should be able to start sharing images of the new era map, complete with period ground units. DCS: L-39C and L-39ZA Albatros Coming to DCS World Another new aircraft coming to DCS World later in 2014 will be the venerable L-39 jet trainer, developed by Eagle Dynamics. We will first release the L-39C variant and then later the L-39ZA variant. This aircraft has acted as the primary jet trainer for many countries around the world for several decades. In addition to its training role, the L-39 can also be loaded with ordnance and act as a light attack aircraft. We also plan for this module to include multiplayer front seat / back seat capability. We believe that this feature will add a new dimension of gameplay for this aircraft and several others like the UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, Hawk, and C-101. Su-27 for DCS World As we did for the F-15C, we will be updating the Su-27 for DCS World to include a Professional level flight model. Development of this updated Flanker is well underway and will be free as part of Flaming Cliffs 3. We will also sell the Su-27 for DCS World as a separate download later in 2014. DCS: MiG-15Bis Coming to DCS World As a perfect bookshelf match to the F-86F Sabre, Belsimtek in cooperation with Eagle Dynamics are developing the MiG-15Bis for DCS World! As with the Sabre, the MiG-15Bis will be a fully detailed module with Professional Flight Model (PFM), mouse-interactive cockpit, and detailed cockpit systems. Combined with new maps, the battle of Sabre's vs. MiGs will be an amazing experience and further help us achieve our goal of providing an air combat experience spanning several decades. MiG-21Bis, Hawk and C-101 Coming Soon to DCS A couple of years ago, we started the initial steps of allowing qualified third parties to develop and sell modules for DCS World. The fruits of this effort are almost ripe and have taken the form of the MiG-21Bis (Leatherneck Simulations), Hawk (VAEO Simulations), and the C-101 (AvioDev). All three projects are making great progress and are either in or close to the Eagle Dynamics testing phase. We see these as just the tip of the iceberg for future partner projects. Nevada Test and Training Range (NTTR) Map Work continues on the NTTR map. The primary objective is to adapt the various map assets to work within DCS World. Once this effort is complete and DCS World 2.0 is available, we plan to release this map soon afterwards. DCS World 2.0 Coming in 2014 The next iteration of DCS World (formerly 1.3.0) is currently in internal testing and will be available as a free download later in 2014. All DCS modules will be fully compatible with DCS World 2.0. As with DCS World 1.0, 2.0 will also include the FREE TF-51D and Su-25T. New features of DCS World 2.0, but subject to change, include: DirectX 11 support Improved game performance New and improved lighting Improved effects New water animations Improved shadows Unified GUI that eliminates the need for separate GUI and simulation .exe while also speeding up mission load times. Later, this will also allow us to integrate simulation elements into the Encyclopaedia and Mission Editor Ability to access new maps that will be sold as separate modules New grass and clutter New clouds Ability to create dedicated server Skeleton animations Depth of field support Improved Oculus VR support Some of these features may not be included in the initial DCS World 2 release. DCS: F/A-18C Hornet Update Perhaps the most eagerly awaited DCS module, the Hornet, is indeed in progress... it really does exist! More so than any other of our past and current projects though, the Hornet requires a massive amount of work, not just the creating of the art assets and programming of the cockpit functions, but also a great deal of research, design documentation, building of supersonic aircraft flight dynamics (F-15C with BST and Su-27 have been helping to create this technology), acquiring source data, and creating several new technologies like air-to-surface radar. In addition to the actual aircraft, there are other elements that need to be created such as an improved Nimitz-class aircraft carrier, much better carrier operations, and a new combat theater map tailored to this aircraft. We hear you and realize that many of you are very anxious and looking forward to hearing more about this project. As we get closer to an early beta, we will be discussing this more. Here are some very early images of the cockpit. Bye Phant Edited September 4, 2014 by phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Sto giro in effetti non si sono risparmiati con le info. Ed il fatto che citino il discorso nuove mappe abbinato all' F-86 ed al Mig-15 in effetti farebbe pensare a qualcos'altro oltre l' NTTR. Senza contare poi questo punto: The other major element of DCS World War II: Europe 1944 is of course the new Normandy map. The team is currently working on a new combat theater map to support DCS: F/A-18C Hornet, but once complete, will be returning to this map. At that time, we should be able to start sharing images of the new era map, complete with period ground units. Interessante anche questo pezzo: We also plan for this module to include multiplayer front seat / back seat capability. We believe that this feature will add a new dimension of gameplay for this aircraft and several others like the UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, Hawk, and C-101. Parlano dell' L-39, che però avevo capito che era in sviluppo presso altri... invece nella newsletter parlano di modulo loro, ED. Senza contare la possibilità di creare dei dedicated server. Edited September 4, 2014 by chromium Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khamul Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 "new era map" potrebbe anche significare che per ogni modulo/era potrebbe esserci una mappa dedicata. Quindi, oltre una mappa della Normandia, potrebbe nascere anche qualcosa intorno al Viet-"fottuto"-nam; così da accogliere F-86, Mig 15 e UH1...mica male!!!:thumbup: TU NE CEDE MALIS SED CONTRA AUDENTIOR ITO _________________________________________ Asrock Fatal1ty Gaming K6+, i5-6600K, 32 GB DDR4, Asus GTX 1070 Strix, SSD 500GB, HDD 1TB, Win 10 x64, Monitor LG Ultrawide 29UM67, Soundblaster Z+Sennheiser Game One, HOTAS Warthog, TFRP Thrustmaster, TrackIr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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