[CLOSED]What Went Wrong??

[sackman]

I have modules for A10C, FC3 and SU25T and they have been running fine for many months...I also have the original stand alone version A10C w/updated patch on my computer. I needed some additional space on my hard drive and read on this forum that you can remove the original A10C version if you have DCS World with the modules, so I did...Now DCS World wont load any module fully..it freezes about three quarters thru the loading (please wait) indicator. I reloaded the original stand alone A10C and nothing changed.

I also have FC3 original stand alone and left this program alone.

What went worng??

[NineLine]

Sounds strange, did you try reinstalling the A-10C module for DCS World?

 

What about a repair on your DCS World?

 

I have modules for A10C, FC3 and SU25T and they have been running fine for many months...I also have the original stand alone version A10C w/updated patch on my computer. I needed some additional space on my hard drive and read on this forum that you can remove the original A10C version if you have DCS World with the modules, so I did...Now DCS World wont load any module fully..it freezes about three quarters thru the loading (please wait) indicator. I reloaded the original stand alone A10C and nothing changed.

I also have FC3 original stand alone and left this program alone.

What went worng??

[sackman]

What Went Wrong??

 

I have A10C, FC3 and SU25 modules on World and all have been running fine for months now. I needed added disc space so I read on this forum that I could remove the original stand alone A10C program but to leave the stand alone version of FC3 alone. So I removed the A10C older version and now the system locks up about two thirds into the loading screen (please wait indicator) for all modules. What went wrong here?

I reinstalled the old A10C stand alone but no changes in World.

[ARM505]

Try using the 'repair DCS World' option?

[SkateZilla]

it's Possible when You uninstalled DCS: A-10C 1.1.1.1, that You either De-Activated that License, or it removed registry entries that were shared by both programs.

 

Remove A-10C 1.1.1.1

Try Re-pair Option for DCSWorld,

Also make sure the Activation Dialog isnt coming up behind the DCSW Application.

[sackman]

Thanks for the quick response...

I tried Repair World but no joy. There is no license dialog on screen.

World does start up and I do get to the first screen...when I go to instant action and select any of the planes the program starts to load but when the loading indicator gets to about two thirds loaded it freezes and get a box that says DCS stopped working. When I close out of the box the debriefing screen does load and comes up but it says it doesnt see a file for debriefing.

[SkateZilla]

You dont by any chance have "Game Mode Avionics" turned on in the options do you?

[sackman]

The Game Mode Avonics has been OFF.

 

I also went to an earlier restore point on the PC and nothing changed.

This is puzzling.

[SkateZilla]

Can you post the Crash Logs and ME logs from the /<User>/Saved Games/DCS/Logs/ Folder?

 

As well as Windows Event Logs,

 

Start, Search Box, Event Viewer, Windows Logs, Applications, and you'll see an Event for DCS.EXE App Crash. Copy and paste the info from that too.

[sackman]

Can you post the Crash Logs and ME logs from the /<User>/Saved Games/DCS/Logs/ Folder?

 

As well as Windows Event Logs,

 

Start, Search Box, Event Viewer, Windows Logs, Applications, and you'll see an Event for DCS.EXE App Crash. Copy and paste the info from that too.

 

 

Here is the DCS log

# -------------- 20130916-185507 --------------

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\ZweiBlau.dll

# C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 62202B39 01:00001B39

#

# EAX = 00000000

# EBX = 991B1E38

# ECX = A60B2E78

# EDX = A67BFED0

# ESI = A60B1894

# EDI = 00000008

# CS:EIP = 001B:62202B39

# SS:ESP = 0023:001DEB8C EBP = 001DECD8

# DS = 0023 ES = 0023 FS = 003B GS = 0000

# Flags = 00010202

[sackman]

Can you post the Crash Logs and ME logs from the /<User>/Saved Games/DCS/Logs/ Folder?

 

As well as Windows Event Logs,

 

Start, Search Box, Event Viewer, Windows Logs, Applications, and you'll see an Event for DCS.EXE App Crash. Copy and paste the info from that too.

 

 

Here is the ME log (have no idea how to compress and attach this stuff)

 

=== Log opened UTC 2013-09-16 19:13:08

00000.000 INFO VFS: Using 'Saved Games': "C:\Users\Administrator\Saved Games"

00000.039 UNKNOWN main: locale: en EN

00000.112 UNKNOWN main: me_db_api creation started

00000.471 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: Scripts/Database//CoreModules/WWII Units/entry.lua

00000.474 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: Scripts/Database//CoreModules/WWII Units/FW-190D9.lua

00000.475 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: Scripts/Database//CoreModules/WWII Units/Views.lua

00000.476 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/A-10C/entry.lua

00000.476 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/Flaming Cliffs/entry.lua

00000.481 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/Su-25T/entry.lua

00000.481 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/tech/CombinedArms/entry.lua

00000.482 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/A-10A/entry.lua

00000.482 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/A-10C/entry.lua

00000.483 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Flaming Cliffs/entry.lua

00000.483 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Ka-50/entry.lua

00000.483 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Mi-8MTV2/entry.lua

00000.484 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/P-51D/entry.lua

00000.484 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Su-25A/entry.lua

00000.484 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Uh-1H/entry.lua

00000.485 UNKNOWN main: PLUGINS START-------------------------------------------------

00000.485 UNKNOWN main: plugin: World War II AI Units by Eagle Dynamics applied

00000.485 UNKNOWN main: plugin: A-10C Warthog by Eagle Dynamics applied

00000.485 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics applied

00000.485 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Su-25T by Eagle Dynamics applied

00000.485 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Combined Arms by Eagle Dynamics applied

00000.486 UNKNOWN main: plugin: A-10A by Eagle Dynamics disabled by Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics

00000.486 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Ka-50 Black Shark by Eagle Dynamics applied

00000.486 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Mi-8MTV2 Hip by Belsimtek applied

00000.486 UNKNOWN main: plugin: P-51D Mustang by Eagle Dynamics applied

00000.486 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Su-25A by Eagle Dynamics disabled by Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics

00000.486 UNKNOWN main: plugin: UH-1H Huey by Belsimtek applied

00000.486 UNKNOWN main: PLUGINS DONE--------------------------------------------------

00000.492 UNKNOWN main: ./MissionEditor/data/scripts/unitsclasses.lua loaded

00000.496 UNKNOWN main: ./MissionEditor/data/NewMap/classifier.lua loaded

00000.618 UNKNOWN main: me_db_api creation complete

00000.647 UNKNOWN main: options data successfully loaded

00000.682 INFO EDCORE: createSerialQueue IOQueue

00000.682 ERROR VFS: add_location {"My Missions", "C:\Users\Administrator\Saved Games\DCS\Missions\"}: path already added as "My Missions"

00003.227 ERROR DXGUI_EDGE_RENDER: Cannot load texture ''

00003.384 INFO SOUND: loaded 596 sdefs from ".\sounds\sdef"

00003.416 INFO SOUND: XAudio2: Using device ID:'{0.0.0.00000000}.{91604fe9-3c5c-449b-98b9-bd352fcb5933}' Name:'Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)', channels: 2

00003.416 INFO SOUND: XAudio2: channel layout: Headphones/Stereo

00003.909 UNKNOWN main: Cannot load skin[windowHeaderSkin] from file [nil]

00010.053 UNKNOWN main: removing C:\Users\ADMINI~1\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS\tempMission.miz

00031.746 INFO INPUT: Read queue length is 4096

00031.746 INFO INPUT: Input thread started.

00060.275 UNKNOWN main: makeProfileDeviceFolderName Keyboard

00060.382 UNKNOWN main: makeProfileDeviceFolderName SideWinder Precision 2 Joystick {60B4C900-CC7A-11dd-8001-444553540000}

00060.409 UNKNOWN main: makeProfileDeviceFolderName Mouse

00063.478 INFO INPUT: Input thread stopped.

00063.765 UNKNOWN main: turning log false

00063.771 INFO SOUND: detaching sdef path ".\sounds\sdef\"

=== Log closed.

[Flagrum]

Are you sure that the game completely freezes? There were a few reports already about immense loading times - not the "usual" 1 - 1.5 minutes, but up to 5 ... or more minutes.

[sackman]

Can you post the Crash Logs and ME logs from the /<User>/Saved Games/DCS/Logs/ Folder?

 

As well as Windows Event Logs,

 

Start, Search Box, Event Viewer, Windows Logs, Applications, and you'll see an Event for DCS.EXE App Crash. Copy and paste the info from that too.

 

Here is the Windows info..

 

Problem signature

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH

Application Name: dcs.exe

Application Version: 1.2.6.17746

Application Timestamp: 5225ac11

Fault Module Name: MSVCR100.dll

Fault Module Version: 10.0.40219.325

Fault Module Timestamp: 4df2be1e

Exception Code: c0000005

Exception Offset: 00001fa8

OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3

Locale ID: 1033

Additional Information 1: e12e

Additional Information 2: 3c9fe069adf3e7fb1f3e42bae086cad2

Additional Information 3: 0339

Additional Information 4: 2e0dda6b9091501d26e1d0c1984f59bc

[SkateZilla]

System Specs? 32-Bit or 64-Bit OS?

[sackman]

Are you sure that the game completely freezes? There were a few reports already about immense loading times - not the "usual" 1 - 1.5 minutes, but up to 5 ... or more minutes.

 

 

Yes, this is a freeze, I do get a DCS not responding window. I am familar with the long load times concerns from early on and this issue is different.

[sackman]

System Specs? 32-Bit or 64-Bit OS?

 

 

32 bit, Vista, i7 processor, 3G ram, GTS450 Vid.,

[NineLine]

32 bit, Vista, i7 processor, 3G ram, GTS450 Vid.,

 

I am afraid that amount of RAM is going to be a problem, not to mention the 32bit OS.... we are seeing alot of people having issues with 32 bit OS.

Edited September 16, 2013 by NineLine

[Pyroflash]

^ just to be clear, this is because DCS eats up a lot of memory, with ~2 GB available, DCS might run slow, or just crash outright.

 

The 32-bit issue is a matter of available memory allocation space. The inherent restriction of a 32-bit computer operating system is that it can only allocate a hard maximum of 4 gigabytes of RAM. 32-bit applications are most often further software-limited to use a maximum of 3 GB RAM.

 

This becomes a problem because, while DCS only uses ~418 MB of RAM on menu, it QUICKLY jumps up to upwards of 3.2 GB of RAM usage (depending on the aircraft being flown and resources loaded) in any given mission. With an open OS using a good chunk of that, allocated (commit) memory can run pretty high, and total working usage can easily top 5 GB with not much else running in the background.

 

Again, just trying to give some background, this is definitely causing issues, but may or may not be the precise cause of this issue.

[Gforze]

Little confused about the term used ... trying to uninstall the original A10C ... the original A10 included with FC3 is the A10A ..... not trying to uninstall the A10A from the FC3 install by mistake? .... just a thought.

[NineLine]

Little confused about the term used ... trying to uninstall the original A10C ... the original A10 included with FC3 is the A10A ..... not trying to uninstall the A10A from the FC3 install by mistake? .... just a thought.

 

 

I dont think you can uninstall the A-10A out of FC3, unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying. I think in this case its the system specs causing the issues for him.

[sackman]

I dont think you can uninstall the A-10A out of FC3, unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying. I think in this case its the system specs causing the issues for him.

 

I uninstalled World and downloaded the latest file from DCS...I guess I lost the licensing because the original A10C 1.1.1.1 and original FC2 I had on my system was not noted on the latest world download. It indicated that I have to buy them now. In any case, I went to instant action on the latest world download file and tried to load the SU25, a freebee I guess, and the load indicators stopped at the same place. So I cant run anything on world right now. My original set up with world was fine for many months...and now I get 'Zip'. I did see similar issues on other posts and have tried everything.

I cant afford to get new system right now. I will stick with playing the old originals. I appreciate what all of you have done with these sims...I will catch up with you down the road sometime.

[NineLine]

Did 1.2.6 ever work for you?

[sackman]

Did 1.2.6 ever work for you?

 

I am not sure..I never looked at the verson...I dont believe the Land, Sea, Air was available on the version that worked for me. I kept up with all the updates but never went into the sim after the last update so I am not sure.

Was the version before that 125?? Then it may have been 125 that worked.

[NineLine]

From what I have seen, these specs:

 

32 bit, Vista, i7 processor, 3G ram, GTS450 Vid.,

 

Are going to be an issue. You can try installing 1.2.6, and then rolling it back to 1.2.5 to see if you can use that, but right now, I dont think you will have much luck with 1.2.6 I am afraid to say...

[Gforze]

I dont think you can uninstall the A-10A out of FC3, unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying. I think in this case its the system specs causing the issues for him.

 

Yea ... sort of figured I was miss-reading it .... I had an issue where --SOMEHOW-- my shortcut pointed to "update dcs" rather than the "load dcs" executable ..... the sim became quite bogged down and I couldn't understand what was causing it ... until by chance I just happened to look at the properties of the shortcut ..... still don't know how the shortcut might have changed on its own though,except possibly since I am in the habit of making a dcs directory copy (so that when I trash it trying to use a mod that no longer works with dcs v1.26) and I have deleted the directory and reapplied the backup a few times .... still doesn't make sense though.