AndyJWest Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 I don't expect unguided HVAR rockets to be particularly accurate - but having a recoil so they consistently miss targets to one side or the other seems a little strange to me. Anyone else have a comment?
SmokeyTheLung Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 I've also noticed this new "feature" in 1.2.6. From what I can see in RL gun camera footage the effects are a bit exaggerated but I'm looking forward to hearing from the experts on this one. System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
IvanK Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Dont know about recoil but a zero length launcher and any slip/skid or AOA is going to result in average trajectories.
Scrim Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Just off the top of my head I can say that planes like the P-51 and the Spitfire were not commonly used for CAS due to being more sensitive than more dedicated planes like the Hawker Typhoon and the P-47, so most gun camera footage of rockets being fired are from such planes, that are sturdier and less prone to experiencing much recoil. If the P-51 recoil is accurate though I can't say.
Flagrum Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Just off the top of my head I can say that planes like the P-51 and the Spitfire were not commonly used for CAS due to being more sensitive than more dedicated planes like the Hawker Typhoon and the P-47, so most gun camera footage of rockets being fired are from such planes, that are sturdier and less prone to experiencing much recoil. If the P-51 recoil is accurate though I can't say. Excuse my probably stupid question, but how can rockets produce any recoil at all?
AndyJWest Posted October 5, 2013 Author Posted October 5, 2013 Excuse my probably stupid question, but how can rockets produce any recoil at all? That was what I was wondering. As I see it, there shouldn't be any. There might possibly be a slight 'tug' on whatever holds the rocket in place, but beyond that, I can't see why there should be anything at all.
White Owl Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 I was assuming the rocket motor ignited and the hardpoint released at the same moment, or more likely even ignited slightly after release. But I'm completely ignorant of how the real system was set up. Did these things ignite first and then release?
Davis0079 Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 maybe the thrust wash from the rocket hitting the lead edge of the wing.....maybe the weight release....you figure a late release would result in a push, not a recoil, but on the opposite wing would look like recoil....maybe I really just don't know.... It only takes two things to fly, Airspeed and Money.
Scrim Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Excuse my probably stupid question, but how can rockets produce any recoil at all? Well, I don't know what the speed would mean, but I suppose it's all about gravity and counter-reactions and such advanced things. It is after all a rocket engine that's ignited just before the rocket actually let's go of the hardpoint on the wing.
Flagrum Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Well, I don't know what the speed would mean, but I suppose it's all about gravity and counter-reactions and such advanced things. It is after all a rocket engine that's ignited just before the rocket actually let's go of the hardpoint on the wing. Well, I would assume, that if the motor is ignited before the rocket is released from the rail, it would rather drag the airplane forward and not push it back ("recoil"). On the other hand, the hot gases of the starting rocket - after it is released from the rail - could probably cause some push back on the plane ... Oh well, I guess, that is why it is called "rocket science", eh? :o)
Suchacz Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Rocket recoil was discussed already in the "Huey" forum. You can read that interesting dispute here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=107312 Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
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