Red side F15

[Raven1606688358]

Hi all,

 

Been looking around to see if it was possible to have a F15c on the Red side so we can do F15 vs. F15 (and MIG vs. MIG).

 

Is this possible, and how do I do it??

 

Thanks in advance :)

 

/Raven

[GGTharos]

F-15s are available for Israel and USA. Put one country in blue coalition, the other in red :)

[Raven1606688358]

Cool, Thank you! Is there any way to do it on an exsisting map?

[ENO]

go into your install folder / scripts / database and then into db_countries.lua. You'll need notepad ++

 

Scroll down and you'll see all the aircraft currently available to all countries. Find an F-15C and put it on a country currently in the red coalition.

 

Just remember, it'll change back with each repair / update.

[GGTharos]

You can do what Eno suggested, or you can attempt surgery on the mission itself - this means you have to open the mission file (the .miz is a zip file, so just open it with 7zip or whatever) and edit the mission file inside with notepad++. Unfortunately I don't remember the mission structure so I can't give you instructions.

 

Cool, Thank you! Is there any way to do it on an exsisting map?

[GripenNG]

It would be nice if ED could implement something like this in the future as Nevada are released, since almost every air-combat training are between the same fighter system and country.

 

A such feature to choose RED and BLUE on a group level - and not entirely on a country level. This way we could have an american squadron acting as RED Force against another US squadron being BLUE Force. If ED want to produce a realistic simulator capable of simulating modern air combat and training - they should implement it (someday).

 

But I´m no coder so I have no clue if it`s a huge task. But such a feature would sure make DCS a lot more realistic in terms of air training scenarios.

[Wrecking Crew]

Gripen,

The skins would be so alike that it would be very tough to sort out the players. With the different countries, the skins are fairly easily differentiated.

 

BVR will be a problem, though, anytime there are like a/c in opposition.

 

WC

[GripenNG]

Gripen,

The skins would be so alike that it would be very tough to sort out the players. With the different countries, the skins are fairly easily differentiated.

 

BVR will be a problem, though, anytime there are like a/c in opposition.

 

WC

 

If you mean that the correct situational awarness for players will be tougher to obtain I understand your point. But since this is a problem faced by real world fighter pilots - why should´nt we face the same problem they face?

 

I am sure that mission designers on this level also have an understanding for this problem, that are very much realistic. But such a feature should not be forced on any one - it should rather be an option for those "hard core realistic" mission designers.

[ENO]

They do have red flag aggressor squadron markings for quite a few of the aircraft that I've used so I don't think it's that big of a deal- but I agree Gripen- some guys want that challenge while others are less formal...

 

Having the option doesn't mean we have to use it... but like I said it's already somewhat available.

[Robin_Hood]

Gripen,

The skins would be so alike that it would be very tough to sort out the players. With the different countries, the skins are fairly easily differentiated.

 

BVR will be a problem, though, anytime there are like a/c in opposition.

 

WC

 

Actually, not that much. Look at US F-16 vs Turkish F-16, they're pretty hard to tell apart (ie. they look basically the same). A lot of countries have adopted the grey paint scheme on their aircrafts.

 

OTOH, while I completely agree that the current "coalition-by-countries" system is not really good, I suspect changing that might be more work that it looks like. I believe pretty much the entire mission core is based upon two coalitions, defined by a number of countries.

[St3v3f]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=47877&page=9

Posts 83 and 84 tell you what to do to change coalitions in an existing mission.

[Raven1606688358]

Hi,

 

Works like a charm :-) Opened the MIZ file and edited the files.

 

Thanks a bunch!

[Fishbreath]

Actually, not that much. Look at US F-16 vs Turkish F-16, they're pretty hard to tell apart (ie. they look basically the same). A lot of countries have adopted the grey paint scheme on their aircrafts.

 

OTOH, while I completely agree that the current "coalition-by-countries" system is not really good, I suspect changing that might be more work that it looks like. I believe pretty much the entire mission core is based upon two coalitions, defined by a number of countries.

 

Given the way mission files are structured, I suspect the same thing.