CCRP Problem

[Sittingbull23]

Hi everybody,

I've a problem that i can't solve and hope someone of you guys can help me out.

I'm trying to attack targets with ungided bombs in CCRP Mode. Therefor I mark a static targed with the tgp and set it as SPI. I have started the attack in a distance of around 1NM, sometimes more sometimes less, and a altitude of around 6000 ft. The min. altitude is set to 500 ft. But every time I'm closing in the ASL starts moving. At the beginning of the attack it isn't even close to the SPI. It moves most times more than 20 dagrees to the side while i come closer and it is almost impossible to get a bomb drop. I have no clue what's causing this problem and would be very thankful for any support.

[doright]

While someone might have a quick answer I would recommend saving then posting a track from a short mission where this happens and I sure we can help get your bombs on target.

 

Have you tried it from higher and further out?

[Psyrixx]

Drop your bombs from above 6,500ft AGL. I have found that 100% if the time if I drop my bombs from below this altitude, they miss.

[Eagle7907]

Hi everybody,

I've a problem that i can't solve and hope someone of you guys can help me out.

I'm trying to attack targets with ungided bombs in CCRP Mode. Therefor I mark a static targed with the tgp and set it as SPI. I have started the attack in a distance of around 1NM, sometimes more sometimes less, and a altitude of around 6000 ft. The min. altitude is set to 500 ft. But every time I'm closing in the ASL starts moving. At the beginning of the attack it isn't even close to the SPI. It moves most times more than 20 dagrees to the side while i come closer and it is almost impossible to get a bomb drop. I have no clue what's causing this problem and would be very thankful for any support.

 

I've noticed this same thing. I've noticed it happens to me when there are winds programmed in the mission. I line up for a stationary target 3 miles out and line up the VVT to the fall line. Then less than a mile away the fall line starts moving on it's own to the right or left (flying straight and level). Of course bombs miss.

 

I do the same mission edited without winds. Fall line stays right where it should through-out release. Bombs impact much closer almost dead on target.

[ShuRugal]

there is a tutorial around here somewhere for entering wind data into the CDU which greatly improves CCRP accuracy.

[Sittingbull23]

Hi everybody thanks for your help so far. I tried it with additional wind settings but it didn't work. I have also told the LASTE to ignore all wind and temperature datas. It didn't fix the problem as well. I've made some screenshots of the problem. They all were made on the same course. I would be thankful for some more ideas.

[Xavven]

Hi everybody thanks for your help so far. I tried it with additional wind settings but it didn't work. I have also told the LASTE to ignore all wind and temperature datas. It didn't fix the problem as well. I've made some screenshots of the problem. They all were made on the same course. I would be thankful for some more ideas.

 

The screenshots help, but posting a track would be better. Just hit "save track" when you exit and then look in your Saved Games folder in your profile.

 

Your heading is changing ever so slightly so I can't tell what the issue is. Also, are you in grid 38T, just out of curiosity? Many of us have encountered bugs with the HUD and SPI in certain areas of the map and I'm wondering if there's any correlation here.

[Flagrum]

Hi everybody thanks for your help so far. I tried it with additional wind settings but it didn't work. I have also told the LASTE to ignore all wind and temperature datas. It didn't fix the problem as well. I've made some screenshots of the problem. They all were made on the same course. I would be thankful for some more ideas.

Hrm, yes, a track would really help here. Without it, it looks to me as if you weren't steering at all. Your TVV is perfectly centered on the pitch ladder, your ALT doesn't change even a foot and you fly straight along ("following" your PBIL) while your target, and accordingly the ASL, passes by at your left. If I had to guess, I would say you had your auto pilot on? :o)

Edited December 16, 2013 by Flagrum

[Hansolo]

I agree with Flagrum that it does look a little like you are on auto pilot or at least steering the same heading. IMHO the wind data entered is only used to calculate the bombs drop. E.g. the trajectory AFTER release.

 

It looks like you are not compensating for the effect the wind has on the aircraft. If you have a side wind it will push the aircraft sideways which may be why you are ending up with the ASL is passing you left side. Was the wind coming from your left side? Just a suggestion.

 

Cheers

Hans

[ShuRugal]

Hi everybody thanks for your help so far. I tried it with additional wind settings but it didn't work. I have also told the LASTE to ignore all wind and temperature datas. It didn't fix the problem as well. I've made some screenshots of the problem. They all were made on the same course. I would be thankful for some more ideas.

 

Could it be because you are being blown off course? Your instruments indicate a small amount of right sideslip, and your ADI steering bar continuously shows the need for a slight correction to the left.

Edited December 16, 2013 by ShuRugal

[Yurgon]

there is a tutorial around here somewhere for entering wind data into the CDU which greatly improves CCRP accuracy.

 

To be taken with a rather large grain of salt. Testers have said repeatedly that CDU wind info is currently ignored by the sim and it makes absolutely no difference at all whatever wind data is entered into the CDU. I haven't tested that myself, but I'm pretty much convinced that wind corrected dumb bomb delivery is just a placebo. :smartass:

 

The thread you mentioned and the discussion about it can be found here: Wind correcting Dumb Bomb Delivery

 

Edit: Oh, right, back on topic: I agree with the others. Autopilot seems to be on according to the screenshots. Looks like OP simply forgot to steer the aircraft. :)

 

A track would definitely help.

Edited December 16, 2013 by Yurgon

[Flagrum]

The thread you mentioned and the discussion about it can be found here: Wind correcting Dumb Bomb Delivery

The conclusion that I drew from that (and there is an other one) was in the end, that after one of the latest patches (1.2.5?) CDU wind data entry and IFFCC wind correction (with and without CDU wind data) IS working, but that dumb bombs are just that ... dumb. They aren't precission amunition and thus entered wind data is no magic bullet. I.e. it works now, but one still can't expect wonders.

[Yurgon]

The conclusion that I drew from that (and there is an other one) was in the end, that after one of the latest patches (1.2.5?) CDU wind data entry and IFFCC wind correction (with and without CDU wind data) IS working, but that dumb bombs are just that ... dumb. They aren't precission amunition and thus entered wind data is no magic bullet. I.e. it works now, but one still can't expect wonders.

 

Huh, seems I missed some developments there. But I suck at delivering dumb bombs regardless of wind, so I haven't yet taken that much of a keen interest in the matter. :D