Same error on 3 PC's after scratch install-ALL

[BitMaster]

Hey Fellow Pilots,

 

since I just acquired a set of used 3 Dell Optiplex's with 2.8GHz Core2Duo and 4-6GB RAM I decided to familiarize myself with a dedicated server and installed Win7-64 SP1 on all machines, Dell Driver Set, Windows Updates and then installed a fresh copy of DCS World.

 

On the 1st machine, it worked for a few hours until I ran into 0x000007b error

 

On the 2nd and 3rd machine the 0x000007b error was there from start on, not allowing me to boot the game at all.

 

I tried "fix installation" "update" etc.. no change, still this error that I encountered also on my Asus G73 Notebook and thus can't play on this machine.

 

De facto, the only Win7 that I have that runs DCS is via BootCamp on my MBP Retina.

 

 

Any idea from the debs what this could cause ?

 

 

There is NO other sw installed on those 3 dells but DCS, plain Win7, Drivers, SP1, Updates and then DCS.

 

Visual C++ 2010 x64 is installed by DCS and later got updated once installed by WinUpdates.

 

Since the same update is applied on my working installation it can't be exclusively this KB-patch

and the 1st Dell that worked a few hours also applied the patch and kept on working with this patch installed.

 

 

I tried ( not on the 3 Dells but on the Asus G73 ) installing and deinstalling all Visual C++ 2005-2010 x86 and x64 up and down the list and no cure in sight.

 

 

Any help/info welcome to narrow this down !

 

 

Bit

[Psyrixx]

So I'm assuming the first computer has 6GB RAM and the 2nd and 3rd computers have 4GB RAM?

 

Minimum system requirements:

OS 64-bit Windows Vista, 7 or 8;

CPU: Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz;

RAM: 6 GB;

Free hard disk space: 10 GB;

Video: 512 MB RAM card, DirectX 9.0c - compatible;

Sound: DirectX 9.0c - compatible;

 

If this is the case, you are awfully close to the bare minimum spec required to run DCS World. I'll bet your MBP Retina has at least 8GB RAM and an i5 Series CPU of at least 2.8GHz? How much RAM is in your Asus G73? From what I can tell, the processor spec on the G73 is well below the 2.0GHz requirement (I can only find them at 1.60GHz). Also, they are using a mobile version of the i7 which won't be as powerful as a desktop class CPU.

 

It sounds to me like the Retina Macbook Pro is the only computer you have that is powerful enough to run DCS: World. Have you tried running the game with the absolute lowest resolution, textures, details at low, etc on the Dell with 6GB RAM? With a Core2Duo, that's about all you'll be able to handle. For a dedicated server machine, this shouldn't be a problem.

 

Also, do you have NVidia or ATI video cards in these computers?

 

Summary:

Computer 1:

Core2Duo @ 2.8GHz

6GB RAM

Win64 SP1

Video Card: ????

 

Computer 2:

Core2Duo @ 2.8GHz

4GB RAM (unclear what 4-6GB means so I'm guessing has 4GB since DCS crashes immediately)

Win64 SP1

Video Card: ????

 

Computer 3:

Core2Duo @ 2.8GHz

4GB RAM (unclear what 4-6GB means so I'm guessing has 4GB since DCS crashes immediately)

Win64 SP1

Video Card: ????

 

Asus G73 Notebook/Ultrabook

i7 @1.6GHz (well below minimum spec for processor speed)

8GB RAM (enough RAM)

Win7-64Bit SP1

Video Card: ATI Radeon Mobility 5870

 

Macbook Pro Retina

No specs given but I assume at least 8GB RAM since it runs DCS World, minimum specs on 8GB RAM model:

i5 @ 2.4GHz (boosts to 2.9GHz)

8GB RAM

Video Card: Intel IRIS

Win7-64Bit via BootCamp

 

 

The only computer out of the Dells that meets minimum spec (and I do mean minimum spec) would be the first computer, and depending on the installed video card the game should be able to run but only on the absolute lowest video settings.

 

Unfortunately, the processor on the Asus G73 is much too slow to run DCS World.

 

I'm betting the MacBook Pro is the only computer you have that meets the specifications to run DCS World at anything higher than low, even though you did not post specs for it.

 

DCS World is very very CPU dependent for both flight calculations and graphics processing... the processor and amount of RAM is often the #1 thing that will determine how well DCS World will run. Since you're pretty much at bare minimum with these components on 4 out of 5 of your computers, I'm willing to bet that's your problem.

Edited December 18, 2013 by Psyrixx

[BitMaster]

Psyrixx,

 

the purpose of running them on the Optiplex is a renderless version of DCS as a server, so the minimum specs are not exactly what matches the load of the running process as if it would be rendering too. Via auto exec file the render process is disabled on the Optiplex as they only have 4 or 6 GB of RAM and Q35 Graphic Adapter and who needs FX on a ded. server. The 1 Optiplex that worked for some time did it's job pretty good and 6GB where enough to run it, CPU Load was also modest, nothing to worry about being too small.

 

The MBP has 16GB RAM and a 2.6GHz i7 CPU with NV 650-GTM, enough to play it @ 2kg weight

 

The G73 also has 16GB DDR3 and an 1.73GHz i7 CPU and a NV 460 GTX-M. I doubt the CPU will be too small since I ( or I should say my son ) plays lots of other games on it and it is still fast enough to play modern games. It would rather be the 460GTXM limiting I bet and not the CPU that would also OC to 2.6 if only 2( resp. 4 ) cores are in use.

 

Also, you should not compare GHz vs GHz anymore, a 1.73GHz i7 Mobile (with extra L3 with the M version) are about as fast or faster as some mid-stream 2.x GHz AMD/Intel CPU's. Though this is a not-SMP optimized code, pure MHz do actually count a lot in DCS, more modern games thread a lot better and make use of all 8 Cylinders in your V8, DCS makes use of 2 Cores, in HT it spreads to 4. I am not sure, but it may be that on i5 CPUs only 2 cores are active for DCS, on my i7's it uses 4 ( 2 x 2 in HyperThreading ). If this is true, the i7 would have a clear advantage vs an i5 for DCS. Would be interesting to find this out with facts if it is like I assume.

 

QUOTE:

Minimum system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows Vista, 7 or 8; CPU: Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz; RAM: 6 GB; Free hard disk space: 10 GB; Video: 512 MB RAM card, DirectX 9.0c - compatible; Sound: DirectX 9.0c - compatible; requires internet activation.

 

Recommended system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows Vista, 7 or 8; CPU: Core i5+; RAM: 8GB; Hard disk space: 10 GB; Video: Shader 3.0 or better; NVIDIA GeForce GTX560 / ATI 6950 DirectX 9.0c or better; Sound: DirectX 9.0c - compatible; DirectX: 9.0C; requires internet activation.

 

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it doesn't say how fast the i5 or i7 need to be to qualify, I guess the pure being one of them states to be enough. This is even more true when looking how slow a 2GHz Core2Duo can be with 400MHz DDR2 some 5+ years ago. A more modern i7 will always outperform that lowest spec 2.0GHz C2Duo of earliest release on DDR2, missing many extensions etc.... Again specs are not the matter to my understanding

 

 

Anyway, the specs and/or VGA adapter play no role in this error mate.

 

This is related to either DX or Visual C++ DLL error and 99% not to Hardware being used.

The error happens before any of that could matter.

 

Ir has also been widely discussed in here with various methods of fixing it with limited success across the systems suffering that symptom.

 

I belief it is not actually an error or bug but an incompatibility between Visual C++ x64 2010 patch levels ( there are a few out there ) and/or DX9c versions DDL's.

 

I tried various methods in patching/deinstalling/reinstallig Visual C++ and Dx9c up & down the ladder, the symptom persistent once it occurs.

 

 

If any of the devs needs some info, logs etc... let me know. I can reproduce the symptom on 3 systems at least by now.

 

It is not an urgent problem for me since my MBP play DCS just fine, so no hurry.

 

I just think many others might have the same symptom and we should check to finally pinpoint the error and work out a fix that will work for most if not all machines that show that symptom while trying to start DCS.

 

BTW I just prepared a scratch install Win7-64 Ult VMware with 4 cores and 8GB, will be interesting to see if it loads DCS or fails at the same spot. Status is alike, Win7SP1 freshly installed, all MS updates, VMware Tools and GO, no extras, no other software, BLANK !

( I do keep 2 other VMware Win7's with working DCSs as proof of concept that it does run flawless in VMware environment ( Mac VMware Fusion ))

 

If it fails with this new version, than I can almost see the relation between patch levels and install versions of certain DLLs being used and accused.

 

Will keep you informed later tonight when I get back to testing with this fresh install

 

Bit

Edited December 18, 2013 by BitMaster

[AtaliaA1]

Didn't this error (0x000007b error have to do with d3d.DLL file? I looked at some of my older posts but couldn't find the one I am thinking of yet. Will look again but maybe someone else will recall this?

[BitMaster]

...downloading the 1.2.7 open beta right now AND as it seems, depends on C++ 2012 !

 

So, if we are lucky, this problem solved itself by now :)

 

@70 kb/sec this may take a while to find out SIGH ! servers are squeaking under the load, maybe a torrent will pop up soon....

 

Bit

[BitMaster]

Didn't this error (0x000007b error have to do with d3d.DLL file? I looked at some of my older posts but couldn't find the one I am thinking of yet. Will look again but maybe someone else will recall this?

 

I followed all descriptions in there and more, didn't help, but see above...1.2.7 is out

[hawk4base]

...downloading the 1.2.7 open beta right now AND as it seems, depends on C++ 2012 !

 

So, if we are lucky, this problem solved itself by now :)

 

@70 kb/sec this may take a while to find out SIGH ! servers are squeaking under the load, maybe a torrent will pop up soon....

 

Bit

I don't think so . Done a quick search on google an fund this link http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/when-launching-application-receive-error-0x000007b/ec09e092-d85a-4e91-a7f1-adb4c7ede7fd . You may have a read of this. Looks like you're haveing more trouble the think.

[c0ff]

Hey Fellow Pilots,

 

since I just acquired a set of used 3 Dell Optiplex's with 2.8GHz Core2Duo and 4-6GB RAM I decided to familiarize myself with a dedicated server and installed Win7-64 SP1 on all machines, Dell Driver Set, Windows Updates and then installed a fresh copy of DCS World.

 

On a clean machine you will need

DirectX June 2010 Runtime - this is DirectX 9.0c

and Visual C++ 2008 runtime - it's needed for one of 3rd party libs in DCS

 

These are not included in OpenBeta.

 

EDIT: also install Visual C++ 2010 Runtime - this one is needed because of a bug

After we push an update, it won't be needed anymore.

Edited December 20, 2013 by c0ff

[hx5791]

DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010)

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109

Download,setup,and OK!