flyinfriend Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 When I approached the city one of the convoys was already present. Because of my distance from the city the tall buildings were not rendered. However when zooming in with the Shkval to get a better look the buildings were rendered. The result was that I couldn't get a visible lock on the enemy but they were able to shoot at me as though the buildings weren't there. With my inept abilities this made it all the more unfair.:joystick: I have tried sneaking up on the convoys and have only succeeded twice without being noticed by a convoy on my opposite side. What is the secret to this? Once you are noticed is it best to just fly away until you are out of range and then try to attack from a distance?
Yurgon Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Because of my distance from the city the tall buildings were not rendered. However when zooming in with the Shkval to get a better look the buildings were rendered. The result was that I couldn't get a visible lock on the enemy but they were able to shoot at me as though the buildings weren't there. Do you still fly the old Black Shark 1? I think the problem with invisible buildings was mitigated in BS2. But the general problem persists: The AI can see through buildings and trees. It shouldn't be able to shoot through buildings, though (but it can shoot through trees, unfortunately). You'll have to learn to adapt. If they can shoot you, you're too close anyways. :D Make use of your stand-off weapons, kill anything that carries anti air weapons first and then finish the rest off with rockets or cannon. I have tried sneaking up on the convoys and have only succeeded twice without being noticed by a convoy on my opposite side. What is the secret to this? Once you are noticed is it best to just fly away until you are out of range and then try to attack from a distance? I've just tried the mission and had my gun shot to pieces by a ZU encampment. Nasty buggers, very hard to spot, and intel didn't mention them at all. No beers for those guys tonight! Anyways. I don't think you should try to sneak up to any target at all. Make sure to keep your distance and stay out of their range. Your Vikhr missiles outrange most threats, so make good use of that advantage. Be aware that MANPADs may be hiding anywhere. Just because you've killed an APC or a HMMWV with TOW doesn't mean you're on the safe side. But if you've scanned the area and/or sent your wingman on recce, go in and finish the rest of the convoy with rockets or cannon. Then do the same thing with the remaining convoys. That should do the trick. :thumbup:
flyinfriend Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 Thanks for the reply Yurgon. This is in BS2/DCS world. Thanks for the tips too. I flew the convoy mission again tonight. Approached slowly looking for the convoys. A single stand alone AA gun found me but I couldn't see it so I ran for the hills and made my approach to the convoy once sighted. I took out several of them and thought it was safe (I thought I had taken out all AA) to approach to finish off with the cannon. My mistake...the SAM launcher was still alive and had taken cover. He took out my wingman who then flew into me. Oh well, try and try again. :joystick:
jib Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Yes I reported this bug in object errors back in October http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=102662 No reply yet. Edit: Actually reading more closely this is the opposite of the bug I had, I could see the building but it was invisible on the shkval. Edited January 7, 2014 by jib Mods I use: KA-50 JTAC - Better Fire and Smoke - Unchain Rudder from trim KA50 - Sim FFB for G940 - Beczl Rocket Pods Updated! Processor: Intel Q6600 @ 3.00GHz GPU: GeForce MSI RTX 2060 6GB RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR2 HDD: 1TBGB Crucial SSD OS: Windows 10, 64-bit Peripherals: Logitech G940 Hotas, TrackiR 5, Voice Activated commands , Sharkoon 5.1 headset. ,Touch Control for iPad, JoyToKey
flyinfriend Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 Hi jib, I'm pretty sure I correctly wrote what I saw, but I'll go back and check it tonight. I was far away from the city and the buildings don't actually render until I get closer. I zoomed in the regular view, not the shkval, and could see the convoy in the street behind 'invisible/unrendered' buildings. When I went to use the shkval the buildings were present in that view so I couldn't see to lock on the vehicles. They however could see me and my altitude wasn't that high. If I didn't have shkval line of sight on them through the buildings they shouldn't have a had line of site to fire at me. In any event I couldn't get them because the buildings were visible in the shkval but not in my zoomed in external view. I'll double check tonight.
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