3D printing service for sim parts.

[hitman]

No local home depot. : (

 

I'll just have to ask around. I know some guys who know some guys! :smilewink:

 

If not I'll just come up with a jig in the garage.

A home depot is a lowes is a home improvement center is a hardware store is a plumbers paradise. They just vary in sizes, and almost all of them either cut pipe or bend it too. Almost every hardware store Ive went to had a way to bend copper tubing for plumbing/HVAC or galvanized/stainless steel tubing. If you cant find one, I bet you can call a plumber and ask them where they get pipes bent to order. Id do it myself, but Im lazy :joystick:

[Stevos758]

Yes I wish I had a home depot....

 

I did just brainstorm up and adjustable spring tension device! So I must begin work ASAP!

[Kybosh]

Im going to have to point out another issue, I just noticed you have the gimbal on the deck. The chair will interfere with stick travel, and you might want to test it before you go any further. Id even go as far as applying sensitivity to the stick in-game, but I overcame that by removing the gimbal off the mount and placing mine on top of the pipe, connected to flanges.

 

Problem solved

 

http://activeaid.com/products/raised-toilet-seats/model-202/

[cichlidfan]

Problem solved

 

http://activeaid.com/products/raised-toilet-seats/model-202/

 

Perfect!! :lol:

[Stevos758]

Problem solved

 

http://activeaid.com/products/raised-toilet-seats/model-202/

 

HAHAHA! These will be sold out by the end of the day! hahaha.

[jay43]

This all very good but we have to find a way of restricting the amount of throw you have to use on the stick.

From my experience extending the stick from floor up does give you ever so smooth control but the throw of the stick is exponentially increased to the point you end up having to lean forward out of your seat which is not really ideal and with the bend in it you will keep smacking yourself in the nads i know i have done it.

 

So today i had an epiphany at work whilst doodling away listening to some boring site manager lecturing me it came to me so let me know what you all think of this and if it will work.

 

We already know extending the base from floor up is a pain.

So imagine this flip the base upright as though the stick was horizontal with the floor.

Now decide how much throw you want from the base i am thinking about 4 to 6 inches should be enough and that will dictate how much physical movement you have to do.

Now add a 90 degree bend off of the 4 to 6 inches then add your desired height as close as possible to the real thing that you can get.

Then a 90 degree bend back towards you then a 90 up to the stick and this should eliminate the smacking of the knees and nads.

[Stevos758]

I am working on an adjustable piece that will limit movement.

 

Ill post when I come up with something.

[jay43]

I am working on an adjustable piece that will limit movement.

 

Ill post when I come up with something.

 

Understood but then you can't use the full in game axis cause you're now restricting it at the base.

[Stevos758]

Understood but then you can't use the full in game axis cause you're now restricting it at the base.

 

Ahh! got it.... You were confusing me for a second.

 

I think the only way around that would be a Mechanical geared solution or higher res hall effects.

 

Both would be a lot of work.

 

How would your stick move left and right?

[jay43]

Ahh! got it.... You were confusing me for a second.

 

I think the only way around that would be a Mechanical geared solution or higher res hall effects.

 

Both would be a lot of work.

 

How would your stick move left and right?

 

Ah left and right now ya got me looking at it i am not sure but i am going to put my theory to the test with a few bits of left overs i have lying around.

[Stevos758]

First extension goes out for evaluation today.

 

I am also nearing a limit solution and tracking down a spring for my adjustable force design.

 

Below is a prototype/top plate for the adjustable gimbals restriction and spring mount.

 

[Stevos758]

Found a spring. Should be here next week for testing.

[Kybosh]

I like where this is going

Edited February 14, 2014 by Kybosh

[hitman]

any way you can add force to the stick?

[Stevos758]

any way you can add force to the stick?

 

I have a spring on the way for testing. :smilewink:

[Stevos758]

Getting Closer!

 

 

 

[jay43]

Now thats given me an idea seeing that.

 

So looking at it with that stubie white piece means i could screw the base to the floor just below my seat, then using a drop link ball joint from a car as the main pivot point for the actual stick bringing it upto my desired height including bends positioned around 250mm infront of the main base.

Then raise the white stubie with some ali tubing to say 250mm may be more, then using a bicycle seat clamp around the ali tube and another around my stick from the ball joint and then link them together by using a steel rod.

Voila full throw control without having to reach to far forward and without smacking me knees or nads.

[Kybosh]

Just received the extension with the nylon pieces. Solid construction. Nice job. I plan on testing it out tomorrow evening after the ps2 gets here.

[lxsapper]

A little input. This number may actually be off, but I belive the the stick in the A-10 (other planes are probably not far from that) has a 15º offset in any directions. But this is with a much shorter control column since the seat in an aircraft is much closer to the pit floor. There are simpler ways to limit travel range but not as elegant as the piece you are developing. However I must point out that you have to redesign your piece, because you made it round all the way around. If you look at the warthog's original piece that limits the travel you'll notice that it's actually sort of a square with round corners (to match the diameter of the pole base that hit's it), this is necessary or else at max aileron you can't command max pitch and vice versa.

[Stevos758]

A little input. This number may actually be off, but I belive the the stick in the A-10 (other planes are probably not far from that) has a 15º offset in any directions. But this is with a much shorter control column since the seat in an aircraft is much closer to the pit floor. There are simpler ways to limit travel range but not as elegant as the piece you are developing. However I must point out that you have to redesign your piece, because you made it round all the way around. If you look at the warthog's original piece that limits the travel you'll notice that it's actually sort of a square with round corners (to match the diameter of the pole base that hit's it), this is necessary or else at max aileron you can't command max pitch and vice versa.

 

I did think of this when I was creating it. I have yet to test this one but that is a valid concern.

 

I think i can easily change the piece to work in the same manner as the stock piece. This was more of a prototype.

 

Thanks for all the help guys!

[Kybosh]

Stevos

 

the extension and nylon pieces are strong as bricks..bravo on your work. I threw it to the gimbals all night with no issues

 

thanks

[Stevos758]

Spring is here!!

 

[Stevos758]

Observer prototype A.

 

I am not sure how I feel about the setup. I need to tweak a few things.

 

Tension is adjustable by height.

 

It will def center with the full extension. The stick it a little off center due to the way the spring is manufactured.

 

[hitman]

One big idea thats been floating around is to use retaining springs on all 4 corners of the base attached to the stick, which would center it completely. Im at a loss looking at how to resolve this one...but its an idea. Maybe shim the upper base?

[Stevos758]

One big idea thats been floating around is to use retaining springs on all 4 corners of the base attached to the stick, which would center it completely. Im at a loss looking at how to resolve this one...but its an idea. Maybe shim the upper base?

 

Have you seen Film's extension kit? Maybe something like that?

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=110419