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What real life F-15 pilot (not we - armchair generals drinking liquor) flying jets for 20 years, Squadron Commander flight in Gulf says about F-15A vs F-15C differences:

Thanks, i didn't know that. I always thought F-15E with PW229 and a few additional "tons" of thrust would have similar acceleration, but to be honest i didn't see an acceleration chart to compare them. BFM i knew "Mudhen" wouldn't be a challenge for "light grey" single seater, but with AIM-120 i don't see this as a problem. I wish F-15C didn't receive PW229 like F-16 did, but it required slight rebuild of engine compartment and since Soviets collapsed any challenge to US air superiority disappeared so money cuts were so deep nothing like that was possible. They barely saved F-22 program at all. But "mighty Eagle" lost it's edge years ago, mid 2000s something like F-22 or even Eurofighter with it's aerodynamics, unstable design, supercruise would eat F-15C alive. During Cold War era maneuver air combat you could always count on pilot's skill, and this were super sharp in F-15 community back the Soviets day, but today technology is merciless...

Wasn't F-15E as good as C as "AMRAAM truck"? I've seen 3rd party is making F-15E.

I voted yes but i was thinking about Cold War 1970s -1980s Sparrow/Sidewinder dogfighting Eagle from F-15A to F-15C MSIP II. F-15C from 2000s as another AMRAAM truck BVR datalink standoff it would be no, please no, it's enough.

With all the effort ED made to create realistic aircraft carrier operations and Heatblur Forrestal Cold War carrier coming i think it would be a big missed opportunity not to make any Navy Phantom to use all of that. I think F-4E for the USAF and F-4J for the Navy could be the sweet spot. Both were direct counterparts for corresponding services, both have some advantages over each other to make both of them interesting. F-4E having internal gun and F-4J having more powerfull radar able to look down and carrier capable. Both having very interesting history full of warfare.

That's the whole paragraph: Did you ommit the part which didn't serve you by purpose? And for me WT talk is over as well.

No. This one is blatant lie. WT A-A missiles are utter fiction. If you really think WT does a better job or is even comparable to DCS go play WT. With this mindset you will never appreciate what DCS really is, ED takes painstaking work and years to model one plane as realistic as possible while WT is making 20-30 completely fictional generic copy-paste planes at the same time.

Big YES for this one

Among people without military background, there is some huge misunderstanding of what the collapse of the USSR was from a military and political point of view. You wrote i like 1980s and i like 1990s - like it would be something similar. But from military point of view this were two most extremaly different decades of XX centaury rivaled only by 1940s with WW2. In 1980s Soviet Union surrounded with it's allies/satellites had one of the most powerfull military might in human history with manpower, allies and industry to support it and able to compete as equals on nearly every plane with US and NATO. In 1990s what's left of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact, Russia, was only a tiny remnant of the former glory. Most of Soviet weapon went to junk. For the next 15 years Russia was at it lowest point since before Peter the Great in XVII centaury. To this day in Russia it is remembered as a national trauma. That's why 1990s was the most boring decade in history of every military equipement. Russia was on her knees unable to do anything, modernise, maintain or even pay salary to it's already massively reduced military, feeling threatened on every possible direction, abandoned by almost all allies, with half of Soviet population. That's why 1990s looked like it did, hegemonic USA doing everything as they wish and only absolutely one sided boring conflicts. There is zero atmosphere in 1990s after Desert Storm and not a single opponent to US military. An example of Soviet vs Russian fleet: https://www.businessinsider.com/size-of-russian-navy-compared-to-soviet-fleet-2016-3?IR=T

I can see TRAM Intruder fit perfectly for Cold War and 1980s servers. Being honest in "modern" servers against 2005 versions of F-16, F/A-18, JF-17 with datalinks, AMRAAMS it would be not only not usable at all but also completely unrealistic, being phased out decade earlier. With all the Cold War modules being built A-7E Crusader II, Mi-24P, MiG-23MLA, (i also heard soviet Cold War MiG-29A), Mirage F.1, F-8J Crusader, Bolkov 105, Sea Harrier, Falklands 1982 map and Forrestal aircraft carrier i can see Cold War servers being the most popular in a year or two and Intruder will be extremally fun to fly in this kind of enviroment.

Who ever came up with the idea to call Desert Storm "high threat enviroment"? Some 30-40 US aircrafts has been shoot down during all Desert Shield, Desert Storm and no-fly zone combined. In Vietnam US lost about 10 000 aircrafts. (in words ten thousand!) Some 300 times more. Still even Vietnam was a lot "smaller threat enviroment" than prospective war against Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact in Europe with their 14000 combat aircrafts. Saddam announced that the war would be completely different, the Americans would be bogged down in the sands of the desert with months-long battles with his battle-hardened army and they will be forced to leave not achieving anything like in Vietnam and he will give the Americans "the mother of all wars" (in Arabic, Um al-Mar'rik). Meanwhile Desert Storm turned out to be a walk in the park for the coalition and everyone was genuinely surprised by Iraqi total inability to put up any resistance and the fact that the whole war was won almost without losses in coalition forces. Wining the war and completely destroying war hardened biggest and strongest Middle Eastern army losing some 300 soldiers in the process? Before this war is was unheard of.

I see the solution. Heatblur made both: F-14A which consisted vast majority of the fleet and made all the fighting in all 1980s, Gulf of Sidra 1981 against Su-22s, 1989 against MiG-23s, whole Iraq-Iran war. And F-14B which may not kill any enemy and consisted only small amount of F-14 fleet. Heatblur can make both A-6E: TRAM/WCSI which consisted vast majority of the fleet and made all the fighting in all 1980s Lebanon, Sidra, El Drado, Prying Mantis, Desert Storm with original analog fuel gauge, no integrated missile panel and orginal RWR. And standoff capable 1990s SWIP which fought in limited numbers in Desert Storm and consisted only small amount of A-6 fleet. This situation looks very similar to Tomcat. Personally i'm interested only in Cold War A-6E TRAM together with A-7E and F-14 on Cold War Forrestal when USSR still existed, on both SP missions and MP servers like 1980s Blue Flag or Alpenwolf Cold War but if someone want also this SWIP i have nothing against it. But modeling ONLY A-6E 1990s SWIP version, when according to it's pilot it was already outdated, and was produced only in very limited numbers, would be sad.

I didn't see find source to confirm that. Do you have any data to support this table? I'll ask at Intruder Assotiation the by an email, they should still remember. But anyway, the first operation any squadron using SWIP aircraft was Desert Storm.

Where first SWIP aircraft became operational in any squadron? According to "A-6 Intruder Units 1974-96", page 97, first SWIP was introduced in year 1990. That's why there was such small number of SWIP aircrafts in Desert Storm.

I was to say the same. Every aircraft had it's time in history. In 1990s A-6, A-7 time has passed and Hornet could do all of that and more. Hornet just didn't have the range but Navy ignored that since Soviet Union was no more and everyone started to count every single $. What is more after USSR collapsed F-14s days were also numbered, it lost it's purpose, Navy didn't need high performance interceptor because there was no Soviet supersonic bombers anymore, they tried to save Tomcat as long as possible making a bomber out of it but after all Hornets were far more modern with digital avionics and far cheaper. They didn't even let the Tomcats to shoot Iraqi aircrafts during Desert Storm. My dream is late Cold War trio A-6, A-7 and F-14, all in Cold War Forrestal Class carrier. All having their purpose and specialisation, A-7 for CAS and attacking tactical targets, A-6 for low level strike and F-14 for fleet defense and escort attack aircrafts. In 1990s/2000s it became all Hornet doing everything, maybe without A-6 range or Tomcat fleet defense capabilities but without Soviet danger Navy didn't need that. Electronics did all the job. EDIT: I see some developer named Flying Iron Simulations is making Cold War A-7E for DCS!

I would like to have A-6E up to 1980s TRAM and maybe WCSI. After that USSR collapsed, Intruder lost it's puropose and US Navy lost it's founding. In 1990s they planned to replace A-6 by A-12 advanced strike aircraft or at least thorouhgly upgrade it to A-6F with digital avionics and Hornet engines but even this had to be rejected by US Navy with it's post USSR founding. Up do 1980s Intruder was very capable workhorse of the US Navy and i can imagine it will offer some super exciting experience when, not having standoff weapon, two guys will have to work hard to make low level strikes, at night, through dark canyons, avoiding enemy, dropping bombs at point blank range. But in mid 1990s Intruder was already badly outdated, possible to use only against limited enemy and only against older systems. If we would have only this obsolete in 1990s SWIP version it wouldn't do this great plane justice at all. In 1990s every other aircraft can drop guided standoff weapon from save distance and get back home. That's what real A-6 Intruder pilot, Francesco "Paco" Chierici, said about A-6E SWIP upgrade: The whole interview is interesting and shows why the last SWIP version would be actually by far the LEAST interesting of them all to fly in simulator like DCS.

Is early MiG-29 really going to be made as full module to DCS? MiG-29, together with Mi-24, was the scarriest boogieman when my dad served in Germany in 1980s. At that time, the Soviet Union still existed, having tens of thousands combat aircrafts and tanks, and the atmosphere was completely different to what we have today. Soviet Fulcrum, Flanker, Hind, Fitter, Fencer, NATO Tornado, F-15C, F-16A, AH-64A and F-14A, A-6, A-7 would be my favourite aircrafts possible and i see some of them are already in DCS, other are being made. I've just bought F-14A and i have magnificent time with DCS. After so many years with Falcon where i always felt a bit "cheated".

Mirage is also tempting, i just listen to the interview with a British pilot flying Mirage 2000 in French Air Force, Mirage has distinctive handling with it's delta wing. Is, by chance, F-16A planned for DCS? Or some block before AMRAAM in the future?

Do you know what part of the Viggen is from post Cold War/USSR?

Yes, i saw very positive opinions about F-5. They were used extensively during 1980s in Iraq-Iran war. I think either F-5 or Mi-24 will be the next. Mirage and Viggen also looks great. Thanks all

As i understand 1980s A-10A is only as low fidelity? There is no full fidelity of this classic A-10A? So i guess at the beginning i take F-14A or MiG-21bis then. (or both) Thanks for help.

Hello, i tried FC3 and i liked it. A lot. I wanted to buy some full fidelity module, someting post WW2 but not armed with AMRAAM. It may be simple it may be complex, it may be AA or AG. I just want it to offer engaging playstyle maybe even difficult and be of high quality (module, not aircraft), without many bugs. My dad served in Germany in 1980s so something from this period would be great, NATO or Soviet.

Add to that he has full size 50cm flightstick.