Veseroth

Hi, Just getting back into DCS. I have upgraded my pc.. nothing crazy but better than it was and wondering what the best graphics settings will be based on my specs: Ryzen 5 5600G Geforce RTX 2060 32GB Ram Monitor with 165hz M.2 NVME SSD I went into a game on high settings with DLSS enabled on balanced and was getting 100+ fps in caucasus but experienced weird freezes every 5 seconds or so.. I turned off DLSS and enabled MSAA and my fps was between 65-85. I fly the viper mainly and own Syria as well. Current graphic settings Thank you, as half the battle with DCS is getting it setup right.

Why would anyone want to support a company that treats it's customers like dirt.

No no I think you misunderstand if it was a lack of space issue uninstalling and re-downloading with exact same modules would still exceed my storage which it does not. It's something to do with the updater not removing files as it updates or something. It is not on the same SSD as my windows and others have reported the same issue and said uninstalling and re-installing was the fix that's a royale pain so hoping the updater can be fixed to clear old files and install the proper size. Thank you.

For some reason I could not post in the bugs forum, so will post here and moderator can move to appropriate channel. The updater is bugged in the sense that it does not seem to remove or properly replace files. I have a 250gb SSD drive and only have Syria, F-16, Mariana's installed for modules. The latest patch when I tried to update stated 40+ GB which exceeded my storage capacity. I uninstalled the game and re-installed and with the same modules it only came to a total of 163GB which is below my total capacity. I understand my ssd is on the small end for this game especially if I ever bought more modules going forward, however if they could fix this issue it would prevent people with 250gb ssd's from having to uninstall and completely re-download the game everytime there is a fair sized patch. I think this is something that could be optimized and hope the team looks into this issue. Thank you.

" That is my point somehow - a lot of people (I do not mean you) don't even bother to check for a possibel bottle neck or do the recommended trouble shooting. Then there is wildly thrown around "even people with cutting edge hardware have poor frames" - which is not true. I'm getting close to 60 FPS with very high settings. Yes there may be 3090 people with 20something FPS, but they most likely have a solvable issue somewhere." Thing is I know multiple people who are tech inclined and have their systems optimized very well, one even works as a pc technician and yet his system with a 3090 is having issues with this map.. So I would agrue it's not just a "solvable issue" fixing things client side doesn't fix poor coding server side. Yet they can run fs2020 on ultra settings in vr just fine..

Also for fun I tested different graphics settings, set to lowest graphics possible and then highest graphics possible.. exact same FPS... that alone shows the code is not right and yes I cleared fxo and metashaders.

Hiob do you not understand that people are frustrated, what a poor look for the company to release a free map that is unplayable or causes people even with high end rigs to struggle.. it will drive away customers and cause them a loss of sales. Based on the feedback I have gotten thus far regarding this issue I for one will never spend another dime on this game or recommend it to anyone.. how is it that ms flight simulator 2020 always known as one of the highest demanding games in the market runs perfectly fine for me on my (antiquated system as I'm told) and in fact ms fs2020 is releasing even further performance boosts in the next patch.. they care about their customer base whereas I'm getting the feeling ED does not. Instead of listening to the customers concerns and responding professionally as customers are what keep a company going.. they simply respond with your systems not good enough, move on.. The excuse of it's a system issue versus poor coding does not fly when people using 3090's are having issues.. the game is poorly optimised always has been and now this new map is an abomination of code. It's up to them now to either fix it and show they care about their paying customers or continue to place blame on people's systems and drive away more customers. It's simple business.

Yet I can play MS FS2020 on ultra settings with 40+ fps, half life alyx in vr on high settings no issues.. elite dangerous on high/max settings.. seems other companies are able to optimize better.. again not being rude but it's facts.

Ok but how does that explain people with i7-10, 11 series 3090's 32-64gb of ram having horrible performance... are the best gaming rigs on the market not good enough for this map.. that in itself shows there's a clear as day issue.. unless of course ED wants to drive away their customers by releasing products that are out of reach or just manageable on top end systems.. I bet any money that in due time they will optimize it better and it will be playable otherwise they're only disappointing their customer base and driving sales away.

Then please explain this and it's numerous people btw.. why so quick to blame my pc... I can run Syria just fine.. but here explain this WOW just tried out the new map, I have gone down to 20FPS over most of the map with my current settings that give me a smooth 45fps with re projection enabled on Syria, Navada and PG, this is with a 3090, i9 10850K and 64gig ram. My rig is heavily tweeked for DCS with the V4DCS guides. and there's numerous people reporting same thing with high end rigs... pretty shameful to say it's peoples pc's when it's clear as day there is an optimization issue here... any coder could tell you that at first glance. Not trying to be rude but seems like a scape goat rather than taking the issue serious and investigating... ms fs2020 almost failed on launch due to optimization issues did they blame peoples pc's nope they fixed the problem. you also failed to explain why mariana's is utilising less pc resources than other maps... hmm perhaps an issue there? .....

Perhaps this may help? see attached images.. first pic is mariana's notice it's barely using 1% of lua pc usage, whereas caucasus is using 3.5-4% also both pics exact same settings, in mariana's 15fps.. in caucasus 101+ fps.. huge difference.. I think there is a memory leak or coding issue. Also same airframe tested both times on KA-50 also notice cpu present.. a bit hard to see on caucasus pic but seems mariana's is barely using my pc resources.

It's not spec related though, almost everyone is getting far lower fps on this new map vs Syria.. perhaps you guys could use Syria's optimization as a reference point? If it helps though... i7 2600 Oc'ed to 4ghz, 16gb of ram, 48gb pagefile on ssd, hyper threading disabled, SSD 550 r/w speed, Radeon RX580.. basically a potato, but however I can run Syria which is really demanding at 55+ fps on mostly high settings, mariana's struggle and really struggle to stay above 20 average anywhere near the islands. Friends pc is i7-10k series, 3080, 32gb ram, SSD as well and his fps was halfed or more.. so quite a difference in pc specs but similar results.. it's a map optimisation issue vs pc specs issue. I meant simply that perhaps it's flyable for you guys but there's no way you didn't take a performance hit (fps) when everyone even with beastly systems is saying they have had their fps reduced by half or more on this map. Meant no offense just I highly doubt it's running as well as Syria does for you guys. Not sure how, I get 60-70 fps on caucasus, 55+ on Syria, 20 average on Mariana's.. not trying to be argumentative but there's lots of people saying it's optimisation issues not pc specs.

Really hoping this isn't going to stay this way, as being a free map you'd think they'd want it super optimised.. third party maps have higher requirements okay but a core map to the game needs to have far better performance than this.. I often wonder why the testers/dev's test this stuff on super pc's and not common systems that most people have. I get in general DCS requires better pc's but the fact I can run Syria almost double fps and syria is quite detailed tells me someone messed up on Mariana's.. but I've heard this always happens and in due time they will optimise to be run on the common folks system not nasa pc's I mean honestly and not being mean but did anyone at ED test this properly as they should have seen how bad the fps is versus Syria. No offense but I call bs on this.. my friend has a i7-10 series with a 3080 and plenty of ram and his performance tanked.. still playable for him but close to the point it's not.. being a free map ie core of game this should have better performance than Syria a third party map.

Super frustrated with this, basically made game unplayable for me.. my monitor only has options for 1680x1050 then down to 1280x720 nothing in between I set aspect ratio to 16:9 as 16:10 is my native does nothing and reverts back to some weird number 1.77777778, I'm forced to use SSAA x2 and it kills my fps... and I've posted about this multiple times now on the ED discord with no response.. I really hope ED is taking this issue seriously as for me it's a game breaker (yes I know I can go back to stable 2.5) but you can't play with people with 2.7 open beta so that's not an option as well.

Also wondering when the easter sale will begin waiting to buy aircraft

@BaD CrCThat means your gpu isn't functioning properly.. google low gpu usage to fix it. A GPU should be running 95% to 100% if setup correctly.