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Nerf = take away damage potential. I would say that has happened. I understand why they did it and what they've done. Just don't understand the timing I guess. Hopefully I've gotten a temporary fix for it while I wait on the next patch. ;)

I've gotten plenty of gun kills before this patch. I don't have a 'lack' of practice. However I will say I was a bit disgruntled last night since it was the first time I had flown since the .9 patch so I may not have been exactly accurate since I was a bit miffed at the time. This is exactly the point I was trying to make. Taking a weapon that's available and totally making it useless against the intended target because in a month or more a patch will be made available that will correctly model it is dumb, in my opinion. I know they are doing good work most of the time but this one really doesn't make sense to me.

Well hopefully the wait will be worth it.....and hopefully we don't have to wait long. Killing tanks with clusters is one of the best parts of this aircraft and it has been effectively ruined. Apparently guns aren't doing anything either. I put multiple bombs and gun runs on one target last night and it didn't do jack. Ended up having to put a GBU-12 down it's throat to kill it. A bit overkill I think. Wouldn't it have been better to wait a do all these changes in the same freakin' patch so that we have a usable assortment? Regardless if it's modeled 100% accurate or not. Just seems rather dumb to me. And before I get flamed with ED supporters, I love the sim and the company. I've always waited patiently for the patches to come out and have always appreciated the changes. I understand they are currently making way for more accurate models of the 97/105's, I just find it a bit backwards to do it the way they have, and I'm aggravated that my sim is ruined till the next patch.....

Nice thanks a ton!

This is going to rock some socks I hope. Can't wait to fly with a group on it!

NO autographs, please, I'm a busy man. ;)

For you steam guys, in 1.1.0.8 patching this way broke at least multiplayer. If not some other things. Best thing to do if you don't like to wait is download the full installer and install it stand alone with the CD Key that Steam gives you. That's what I've done and couldn't be happier. No more waiting.

Thanks Vyper we have a great group of guys who fly pretty regular. We will be sure to work this in somewhere. Your math is horrible, if it leaves -4 people that match but you are added it would not be the positive category. IT would still be -3!! lol We know what you mean though. Not to mention I know of at least 5 guys who will be hopefully using some of these tactics pretty soon to break up the wingman in and out calls.

Unless you are flying low, then they make perfect sense. High drag bombs are meant to give you enough time to clear the blast area before you get damage on your aircraft from your own munitions. Typically you wouldn't want to drop a 500lb bomb at 500ft unless it is high drag or you risk losing your own plane. They come in extremely handy when flying in low to take out targets... Also don't blame the inaccuracies of these bombs on the bombs. Most of it has to do with people not properly understanding, rather it be from training(lack there-of) or habit, on how to proper employ them.

Hey you forgot to mention practice. And I'll add one to that....patience.

Absolutely correct. I've gotten more fun out of the sim since I learned the 'basics' that when I was learning a bit on how to fight here. A whole lot of fun.

I prefer it for all my other games. Works pretty good for them. Not to mention I don't have to keep CD's protected etc. etc. I don't understand the hostility towards Steam, lol.

I like to learn the hard way I suppose. I jumped into this sim without flying KA-50 or Flaming cliffs etc. I had a lot of previous flight simulator x time and a good bit of janes sim etc. years ago. When I decided to fly this sim, once you go through the training missions you have enough information to get you airborne and general usage. Everything after that is what I consider the hard learning. Fly until you have a problem, can't figure it out, cuss and try everything you can then hit the forums and the manual. Doing it that way I was up to what I would have considered 100% ready until I started encountering heavy air defenses, and quickly realized I needed to learn some additional tricks. Forums/manual time once again. Now about 2 months into it all I'm pretty damn efficient with each aspect of the sim, I don't know it all but I can hang with the majority of the crowd, live through the missions, and blow stuff up! As equipment goes, as the other have said you don't have to have all these wonderfully overpriced sticks etc. However it is HIGHLY advised to have a trackir and some sort of hotas. You don't necessarily have to go with the most expensive but I always tell people now at least an X-52 and trackir. I've gotten it to the point now I don't even touch the keyboard while flying! I think where the guys who do spend the time to learn the aircraft get aggravated is this - we spend the time learning the navigation, weapons employments, and some of the checklists. We are heavy in battle online and some guy comes in asking where the targets are, which direction he needs to fly, or complaining because he keeps getting shot down. All we ask is either come in online and learn it the hard way, or stay offline for a month or so till you can at least get to the fight, because once we are involved we don't want to have to explain a bunch of stuff, we want to fight!!

When you do this it breaks multiplayer....you can not patch with the same process, at least it didn't work for me. The easiest way to take care of it, is use the CD KEY from Steam and download the full version from the DCS website. And install the non-steam version. Since it's already activated on your computer it will not require another activation, in fact don't be surprised if it doesn't even ask you to do it. That's what I did, not to mention there is no reason to buy it through Steam since they don't have a 64bit version of the ingame chat system which kind of blows the whole idea. As far as Steam being a root kit, it doesn't have anything that runs besides the Steam executable....in fact games like these are the only ones that use any "protection" most pure steam games use a steam.dll in there root directories that simply lookup your account online to make sure you paid for the game. If you did it's activated. No starforce or anything.

Nice enough mission but nothing is shooting at us in MP? I got within 7 miles of an SA-13 and it never even spiked me on the RWR. Can anyone confirm if this is what is supposed to be happening?