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The only thing I could see is allow it to do more/same with less lanes, so more lanes can be split off to drive things like second VGA or more NVMe drives without relying on chipset. As it stands 4090, and now 5090, don't saturate PCIe4x16.

I intertained that idea but I don't wanna breakndown the Watercooling setup and get a new water-block. My loss their gain.

Overall, not surprising considering its built on the same process as the 4090, with an uplift in core count, memory and power consumption. Probably not going to bode well for other SKUs lower in the stack considering the 5090 is likely going to have the biggest uplift over previous gen. But, coming from a 30XX and 20XX generation depending in real-world pricing and availability should be a good time to upgrade. Could be a good time to snag a 4090 on a used market. Some good news though, 9800X3D is still an absolute beast of a CPU... So there's that.

25-50% raster uplift over 4090 depending on game; averages around 30% uplift at 4K. So TLDR its a 4090Ti

If your 4090 is underutilized, crank those GFX settings up. Most of the time my 4090 is 98-100% utilization and that's just with a Q3. Which sometimes kicks me into re-projection; it's fairly rare bit does happen.

With Q3 1.3PD, VD AV1 using Godlike preset locked at 72 Hz I'm am CPU limited sometimes, roughly 40:60 Cpu: GPU limited. I'm on a 4090 and 9800X3D overclocked to 5.6Ghz. With Super and 5090, assuming you're not playing at potato graphics settings, i can't see how you would be CPU limited. Pushing that high a resolution, with quality graphics settings at 72/90 FPS even the 5090 is going to be your limiting favtor. Now whether it's worth it or not, that would be your decision to make based on your current hardware, your financial wellbeing, and what you consider to be an acceptable level of quality/performance of gameplay.

Well that's interesting. Typical Pimax fashion, take something simple and straight forward, commonly understood, and twist it into a clusterfk, just like the "membership" financing nonsense. They need to come up with agreed-upon language, either its a discount or it's a refund...market it accordingly and honestly.

Glad you were at least able to give it a shot, best way to know is to try. Funny that you mention QuadViews Foveated Rendering. I think its perfect for G2 because of such a small sweet spot, your peripheral vision is always pretty crap so you don't even notice the reduced quality. On Q3 with that gigantic sweet spot and QuadViews enabled the reduced peripheral was hella distracting. Thankfully 4090 has been able to pull steady 72 fps with my desired settings without QuadViews. As for the text, out of curiosity did you use AirLink, cable or Virtual Desktop? I ask because to me, text was clearer with Quest 3 via VD AV1 encoder than I had native with my G2.

Saw that yesterday. Not really all that surprising given the track record and one of several reasons I opted to wait on the Super. However, I'll give them credit for not send out units just to send out units, as all it would do is create more bad publicity through bad user reviews. Better take a one-time beating for missing the deadline, than taking multiple beatings by bad user reviews. Heck, maybe by the time I'm ready to buy the Super they will allow us to buy the headset without any if the Pimax Prime Play Super A + membership nonsense.

Yeah I grabbed it from amazon for return policy, ended up just working out. I had bought this cable to try, seemed to work fine. But I ultimately use the Ethernet solution with virtual desktop. Syntech Link Cable 16FT for PCVR Compatible with Oculus/Quest 3/Meta Quest 3S, Quest2/Pro/Pico 4/Ultra Accessories and PC/SteamVR, High Speed PC Data Transfer, USB 3.0 to USB C Cable for VR Headset https://a.co/d/27l1soH

Just got Quest 3 as a lateral/upgrade for my G2. I was originally looking at PCL or a second hand Quest pro. Unfortunately for me, PCL has way too many quality control issues and wasn't something I felt like dealing with on a $1000 purchase, will revisit them when 6090 comes out and Super has matured. Quest Pro I couldn't find for a good enough price secondhand ($500+ used). Grabbed Q3 with a slight discount for $430+tax. Couple of things as been mentioned, if you go cable route its hard to beat a $20 link cable from Amazon vs $70 meta cable. I opted for VD ($25) as it streamlines some of the process for PCVR/SteamVR and desktop use, but I had issues with stutter, likely due to WiFi (connected to my Unifi U7Pro) even though Im seated less than 10 ft away from it; kept getting stutters every 14-16 seconds where it would go from butter smooth to a hiccup, then butter smooth. This did not occur with a physical connection (ethernet or USB). My ultimate solution was using VD with an ethernet adapter, which allows for more granular control of VD without a downside of a Wireless connection. Running 72hz, Godlike preset, AV1 @200Mbit with SSW. For now, not using QuadViews. My fallback plan was using an Amazon USB cable for quest link. Coupled with AMVR facial interface and Kiwi H4 Boost battery halo strap. Stock strap and facial interface are pretty crap but can be corrected for about $40 for both (AMVR facial interface and Kiwi elite strap). Lastly, mine has multiple stuck pixels. They aren't super intrusive as they are only barely noticeable in dark scenes, but they are noticeable. Looking on reddit it's not an uncommon issue. TLDR: its a positive stepup from a G2 in terms of lense quality, that sweetspot is just awesome. Comfort is a stepdown but mitigated by $40-$50 purchase, audio is a slight stepdown as well. At the end if the say you probably end up spending another $60-80 on top of the Q3. So far, no regrets.

Just did this one my Q3 with very positive results. Using VD on WiFi connected to my Unifi U7Pro, it was extremely bipolar. It would be baby smooth 72Hz Godlike 120Mbit AV1 with SSW disabled, but every ~15 sec like clockwork, it would have a 1-second hiccup where latency jumps from 31-40 to 60, FPS drops from 72 top low 60's and game latency goes from sub 10 to 30+. Then drop back down to normal, drove me nuts. AirLink wasn't much better, straight USBC to PC link was smooth. Same settings, with an ethernet adapter and its rock solid at the same settings. May try push bitrate more beyond 120/200. FPS locked at 72, no SSW, latency is 31-42, game latency is 8-13, encode 3-5 network latency is 0-1, decode is 10-13. Anyone run one of these with a head-strap battery kit?

Finally caved any picked up a Q3 today. Still trying to get used to the virtual desktop environment. First impressions: the comfort. Oh boy, the stock strap and facial interface are absolute trash, I almost immediately missed the G2. Then I fired up DSC and was blown away by the sweetspot. I could easily read guages off center, without staring directly at them head on!! 72hz seems like a perfect sweet spot for 4090 to be able to start cranking settings up. Will continue to mess with it tomorrow, start figuring out some of the VD settings and their interactions with the headset and DCS, maybe add quadviews back in (maybe wait a bit). But overall, other than the strap and face foam interface feeling like a jockstrap made of sandpaper, the initial impression is mostly positive... Though I'm pretty sure I have a couple stuck pixels (looks like a star constellation when there's a dark background). Will be shopping for a new face foam and a better strap as well.

The problem, if you can call it that, with DFR is the precision of eye tracking that the headset is able to achieve. It is not exactly 1:1 precision, so you need a bit if wiggle room.

This is an interesting watch on the design of the 5090. Specifically the design of the cooler on the FE model. May further explain where some of the money went besides larger silicon, faster memory, and PCB design.

Nvidia attempt at a software solution to a hardware (cost-saving) problem. With likely 5060 8gb backlash in mind. Will it work, yes. Will it work in DCS, no way to know until released. Will there be a downside (texture quality/artifacting)? Probably.

Technically you're not paying thousands of dollars for 10-20%. At worst, it's 10-20% improvement over 4090, which on a secondary market you can easily sell for $1200+ today. So worst case you're paying $600-800 for 10-20%; more realistically you're paying that for 20-40%. But I get your sentiment.

They need to focus their efforts. Over the years, they've had immense scope-creep on products and features where not an insignificant amount of their planned things either come late, not as it originally advertised, or not at all. Being spread thin also leads to QC issues which further adds to negative public image of the company. Pimax and their products have a ton of potential in such a niche market, it theirs for them to mess it up. Hope they're able to focus and deliver a great product in a space where there is definitely a wand and need.

Considering inflation, cost of PCB, cost of VRAM, and cost of silicon, MSRP is in line with 4090 pricing when it launched. That being said, nvidia markup is still significant....I have no link as I can't recall where i heard this (may have been MLID) but nVidia margin on 4090 was something like 60%. Not sure if anyone has any documented figures.

Thus my tongue-in-cheek repeat of Jensen's statement regarding "$10,000 control center PC" that he apparently thinks everyone of us has. Which would explain why he thinks nVidia pricing is perfect. The 12Gb $600 GPU in 2025 is just rubbing salt on the wound.

Are you saying you don't have a $10,000 gaming command center like the rest of us?

Probably not from financial standpoint, but "value" is different from one person to the next. In my case, it had the best value because for the money, it got me the closest to the level of performance that I found acceptable. My other option would have been a 4080 or 7900XTX, both of which would still carry a hefty price tag while not getting me to the level of performance I was looking for. But there are also those that want to have the latest and greatest and price is just a number. Sadly, with DCS VR, we seemed to have picked an expensive hobby haha.

Sadly, not a novel marketing strategy...praying on those that don't know any better, using marketing speech and colorful graphs that in reality have little tangible meaning. For those on 20XX and 30XX series, this is probably a good time to upgrade if pricing holds up as the performance/$ is better than 40XX series, especially in the mid-high end. For those on 4090's, unless you're within that margin of ~20-30% boost to get you to that place where you can run VR at the settings you want and do so without reprojection, I don't see a reason to jump. I would not make a purchasing decision from 4090 to 5090 based on hopes of DLSS4 coming to DCS VR.

Won't know until it's in peoples hands. Pimax promises tend to change or straight up disappear as time goes on and they just move on to and announce new products.

AMD telegraphed for quite a while that RDNA 4 wasn't going to compete nVidia at the high-end part of the stack and rather focus on the midrange.