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Ahh, its already like this. I guess the main point is to not just go for the Kill or got get the AWAX/A-50. I have been doing this as of late just to see how effective I can be on KAMAKZI missions. So far I have found some dominant issues good/bad. 1. I need way more time in Migs/Su's 2. The F-15 has tons of fuel and a great radar dispaly. 3. Flying 10m is a great way to avoid SAM WEZ. 4. ETs are still the most deadly missile in game. Lomac is not as fun when you just "Go for it" in my opinion. It truly seems like a waste of time when I fly into the bees nest knowing im gona get hit. There realy is no gradification showing up at a bandits air base to maby kill 2 bandits and then get hit by a SAM or another bad guy. My gut feelings tell me that sticking to what brings me home in one piece gives me more sadisfaction than "Kill and be Killed"

Right thats the point of this thread, Kill Ratio point awarding for pilots that complete mission after mission with out getting hit. Compared to kill and be killed and if you do it all the time you can win the point spread, there needs to be a logical matimatical equation to create a plauseable quantitative solution. errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:joystick:ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

We all know what the deal is, classified yes, in lomac undermoddeld yes, hard to avoid from close up sure. As I have stated befor if the 120 in lomac was not "Porked" they would not call them SPAMRAMS. As it is right now I use them as a deturent to obtain a larger goal. Lets hopw that with Black Shark on the way that we do not see some of the misunderstandings that LOMAC has endured.

Yummmm, more SPAMRAM fotter on my way to the A-50s.

All point awarding and Kill ratio point awards will be up to the servers, my "50" points was just a refernce. 169th server has changed a bit, I am trying new tactics and new jets. You can not get real results with new tactics with AI aircraft. So some sacrifices have been made no big deal. Next mont will be a differnt story :music_whistling: Also as you mentioned and I mentiond as well "KILL and BE KILLED" over and over again and you can win the point spread. Case closed or opened in this Thread. :smilewink:

In some cases maby 3% of my flights, thats why I have 8 of them. 45,000ft, you forgot my Mach number. Split S, its the most elementry and most effective offencive/defencive move in an ambush, furr ball, drag, or SAM bateing objectives. There also are counter moves for the Split S.

Peyoteros, Yes I am an Astronaut at times but remember that "ALTITUDE" is potential energy just as fuel, weapons and an objective/mission goal. It seems right now that exploration of the jets and there capabilities should be a major study inorder to overcome misunderstandings. The game right now is what it is reguardless of exploits or dissapointments on other pilots will to become "Dangerous" Also on a concerned note please remember that we are a small comunity and support eachother. We have developed friendships with our love for the game and our knoledge that we all bring to the table eather here in the fourms or in gut renching Air Combat. S! See you in your G suit!

The whole purpose of this thread is to vote on weather or not there should be an Kill Ratio point award. Some times I just fly for fun and I will try new tactics that get me killed, but some times I also like to prove a point in my own skills where I try to not get hit at all. It just seems logical that consistancy should be awarded.

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Well, a perfict K/D is what again? Or how many? How long? I dont understand "Wrongfully skillful" stands for. No one here is perfict and will not get a 100% Kill ratio. We just need some extra points for staying alive longer, so some pilots can feel more gradification for long mission times and executing them with results. Im still for 5 kills with out getting hit you get an extra 50 points.

Ahhh, what has that got to to with Kill ratio point awarding?

I totaly disagree, there are to many good pilots out there. also the F-15c in LOMAC is far from the best jet. The F-15 has no data link, botched missiles, weak thrust, easy black out, ect, ect, ect, so there is no advantage at all in the Eagle in LOMAC it takes a good pilot to make a good score. Also one of the other main reasons why I started this thread is because the of the Kill Ratio point award. There needs to be an incentive for pilots that do not get hit by SAMS, Bandits, runing out of fuel, or just exiting the mission. The "GAP" needs to be fixed, like I stated befor one can kill 200 bandits and die 180 times and still win the point spread. I truly feel that the server hosts need to rethink this issue reguardless of how you feel. There are alot of "Ace's" out there and they need to be compensated for there ability's not for the continous Kill/be-killed/re-spawn issue. The Kill Ratio represents a pilots will, skill, knoledge, situational awareness of the battle field, and the drive to complete a mission bringing the jet back home in one peice. Thats why I said maby 5, 10, 15, 20 kills you get with out getting killed there should be a Kill ratio point award. It just makes no sence at all when all you need to do is kill and be killed to win the point spread, if you do it 100+ times. There is logic in the current scoring systems but for a guy like me I just do not see the point in taking my time to set up in the combat zone. Why should I bother flanking a 2 ship bandit formation text book style land the jet and do variations on this flight model? Its just a waste of time when I could just dump chaff/flares and get closeer to the bandits head on kill one of them and get killed in the process. Upoon doing a Kill and be Killed flight model enough times you can get the number one spot in no time. This is where the LOGIC stops. Server admins need to give kill ratio point awards reguardless, hands down, no-questions asked, period, end of story, the fat lady has sung, elvis has left the building. You cant tell me that 200 kills 160 deaths is good situatonal awareness.

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Right on dude! :thumbup:

Martin we are not talking about how much they cost or what kind of missiles we use this is a flight simulator not real life. We are wondering what the comunity thinks about Kill Ratio point awarding. The costs of missiles, spaming, maddog, flying high and running, are topics that have been beat into the dirt; discussing this is pointless. There should be a point award for Kill Ratio. The Kill Ratio statistic represents survivability in a combat zone, skill, determination, and knoledge of the limitations of your jet. The Kill ratio number is a direct reflection of a pilots will to win.

your missing the point. Then just get rid of the A/a A/g rato counter?

I still think your missing my point. Anyone can get the "High" score reguardless of what Jet they fly. It just makes sence that surviveability should be awarded. Reguardless of anyones flying styles, which is not the issue here. Perhaps if "Globaly" kill ratio point awards are implemented it will give pilots more of an incentive to treat there jet like its the only one they have.

I still think your missing the point. There should be a specific Kill Ratio point award. Look at the votes these are the people who make or break servers.

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Hi, I think we should vote on some new scoring incentives. I have been thinking about this for a while. It just does not make any sence that some one who has a 1 to 1 kill ratio has a better chance at winning a point spread compared to some one who does not get hit as much. There should be a point system where every if you kill 10, 15, 20, aircraft with out getting hit there should be a bonus score. It just makes pure sence because we all know that if you kill tons of bandits and you die all of the time you still can win. There should be a point award to kill ratios. :joystick:

:) Flanking Maneuver. Someone thinking outside the box for a change. Personal Objective. Usually to kill the AWACS. This is almost always a suicide mission. Ya life gets boring, I need more of a chalenge rather than spitting 120s at the Red guy. It would be nice to see some of the "Ace" pilots taking more of a risk and actualy land the Jet back to base after Killing A-50s. Truly the same hit and run fire fights are good and all but thats old news. I like to show up at the bad guy base and destroy S-300 sites with my cannons. Its a fun time also when you drag bandits one way then pull the old switch on them and kill the A-50. :pilotfly:

Lets change it up a bit. :joystick:

Nice game it was. There are some routes that Red needs to pay attention to. A bit of guts a goal, results in Maykop and the A-50 becomming SPAMRAM fotter. Good job all!

Mega way good job, thats alot of stick time! Keep up the good work! :joystick:

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