danilop

No, I'm (almost :)) dead serious. Agree for R-27ET, but that was not what the OP asked. BTW, according to your passion about the subject it seems that the new modelling of AMRAAM is plain ole' revenge for Uber R-27ET spam from LOMAC times? So who is kidding then? :lol: Two wrongs don't make a right!;)

They're obviously trying to corner the market of popular US jets, because there is no competition ATM (combat jets in FSX are joke, F16 BMS is good but outdated and completely sterile in multiplayer).

True, but we can also put it in this way: Having high-quality flyable Russian planes around is "knowledge of how to do business". That has been the major and unique selling pont for ED since Flanker franchise, hasn't it?

Yes, it is. It's surviving because of enthusiasm of the community. Financially it was a flop. Microprose is long gone ...

Yup, community is splitting fast ... not good in the long run, whether you fancy NATO or Russian side of the coin ... I've seen them all hard core sims (almost) since early '90s, and ED is the only survivor from the era. Every other company either died or abandoned the ship. They've had something which other companies didn't - Russian flyable planes. Think about it! ;)

Just stumbled upon this on Wiki ... it explains why we have been endlessly and pointlessly arguing on this board ... :)

Very likely. It basically depends on the ED's decision regarding next Fighter project. F15C is strong candidate.

:yes: Increasingly popular behavior among F15 fans since ED decided to "realistically upgrade" AIM-120's seeker according to report from AA kills against third world country fighters. Oh, and ejecting from burning plane is now regarded as cowardice - spam, spam, spamraaaaam - yeeeeeehhaaaaaaaaa! :D But hey, if it's the only way for ED to survive, I'm all for it! Honestly! :)

Maybe so, maybe not - but what's the alternative then? CH shutting the gaming division down ? :cry:

Agree, but we were talking ED bias, not 3rd parties.

Everyone sees that it will be at least 3-4 years wait until we get proper DCS:Russian Fighter. We got A-10c (great fun), then P51d (I don't get it in 21st century theatre, but OK), next is DCS:USA Fighter. That's the bias I'm talking about! I've been ED user since old Flanker series, so believe me, the bias is definitively shifting towards US jets ;).

Well, they taught us differently in economics and business classes - small company should always explore possibility to enter niche market neglected by Big Boys. ;) Anyway, ED revived combat sim market, and they're doing good business wise (as good as market segment would allow). There is no real competition at the moment, isn't it? I completely understand the obvious bias towards US jets (best paying market ought to be priority) - at least they'll survive to make a few ultra high quality Russian Birds here and there.

+1 :)

I think that this so called "problem" is blown out of the proportion. Yes there is a law now in Russia which prevents espionage and it's obvious that you cannot disclose detailed avionics and operational procedures of 4++ and 5th generation hardware over the flight simulator. Guess what? Try to model US equivalent 5th generation airplane to same standard we are talking about (complete simulation), and wait for the Uncle Sam to knock on your door. It's the same in every other country which has any kind of military, really. That's not paranoia, that's how military in every corner of the world works. They have to protect latest hardware and electronics, it's called national security, so let's move along. Stop asking for 4+, ++ and 5th generation aircraft. It will not happen. Now, hardware which is not in service is historic piece, so basically it's worthless to the governments in national security sense. Give us hardware from cold war era from both sides and we're set.

Then start working on AFM for SU27 - money is waiting ... :thumbup:

Yes, unfortunately. :cry: And SU-25T flight model is light years ahead of any fighter in FC3, and it's free to boot ... but hey, you can't talk missile dynamics and BVR tactics :music_whistling:

FW-190D :music_whistling:

Yet! :megalol:

Well it works now ... You have SU-25T in DCS:World and you have SU-25 in FC3. Same with A-10c and A-10a. So there would be no problem to have MiG-29A and MiG-29S in FC3, and separate (hypothetical) full-blown Mig-29SM (or SU27 or F15 or whatever version they choose to eventually model as DCS: Fighter). FC3 wil eventualy die, if they don't upgrade it gradually to full DCS status, however there are major restrictions from UBI and I think that ED wants to avoid them in the future. We will see ...

Outsourcing to China? Everybody is doing it nowadays - look at TM Warthog, cost would be in four figures if they made it in EU and didn't outsource to China ... ;)

Well, you're probably right because the whole post is about differences between FC2 and FC3 - but hey, we can still hope, right? ... :D

You don't need to buy DCS module to have AI of that same module available to you, or to fly online with people who have that module. With every new module, they update DCS World with its 3D model; the only thing you can't do is fly that plane.

Line 32 is new, look at the OP of this thread, there is no line 32 ;)

Maybe they work in parallel - say DCS: F16 & DCS : MiG29!? ;) I'll wet my pants now if I keep daydreaming ... :lol::lol: Anyway, back to facts .... more fresh news: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1643589&postcount=4 :thumbsup:

I think that they are working on MiG29 DCS module. It's speculation, but look at the facts - no 3rd party announcement and no 6DoF for FC3. Of course, I could be wrong ... Cheers! :beer: