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Merry Christmas :thumbup:
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Take it out and re-seat it back into the slot, that could help.
If not, try another slot to verify it wrks at all. if it doesnt work in any slot its dead, if it only doesnt work in that 1 slot it was in, try the other module in that slot, also slots go dead.
You have a high chance of a "Lifetime Warranty" case if it is of any of the big brands.
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I know this is DCS world forum, but I cant be bothered asking on OCUK as all you get on there is "why buy a 9700K when a 3700X is cheaper"
Exactly !
In addition, it runs even cooler, comes with a cooler and likely outperforms th 9700k in every aspect incl. DCS.
Since you run a 2080 "only" you will be GPU limited anyway and it wouldnt matter if 9600k, 9700k, 9900KS or any Ryzen 3000. You would likely be within 1-3fps with each of them, the higher your resolution the tighter the gap.
For photo editing you can likely use SMT/HT very well. Most apps support it in the editing world.
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In your Start Menue: Eagle Dynamics - Repair DCS
then do the same with - Update DCS
---or, use SkateZilla DCS Updater Tool here : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160053
I.d use the Tool and manage DCS with it from now on, so much simpler
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I would not buy a screen that neither has Gsync nor Freesync(2) if you can afford it.
The price you can pay will define the size you can have.
And I 2nd zhukov032186 that there is a difference, tho 60fps is far from unplayable, you do see and feel a difference. Imho, hovering a Heli is where you recognize the BIG change. The more frames you have the more precise, aka smaller increments, you can put in to do what you need to do to hover the beast. I have started with 25-35 fps on a Mac in 2012 and hovering was a totally different thing vs. 60, 90 or 120+.
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Luckily I only have to remove the cooler fan in order to reach the slots and not the entire cooler itself :)
Ahh, great, some light in the shadow :smilewink:
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The thing is, it's not written in bright yellow and bold letters on those motherboards and if you are new to the matter, dumb things will happen.
Actually, you, sirrah, only did a mistake that is easily reverted. There are things that if they go wrong directly set you back by many hundred bucks, like the 110/220v trick on the PSU ( man, that was a BANG hihi LOL ). You only make those mistakes once usually but they do happen if work with it, be it out of not knowing or just because not really paying attention tho you actually know better.
I have done lots of stupid stuff with PC#s over the last 30 years and I know that I am not failure proof, things do happen. my only help is my own kick in the butt to RTFM before I do things I havent done before.
Anyway, once the 2-module Kit arrives, take the cooler OFF and place them in the proper slots and test. It's a pitty you have to take the cooler off for the first 2 (?) slots, so testing is rather expensive and a hassle due to thermal compound being used up, but hey, next time, you know that such coolers suck and that there are ones that allow you to work Slot 1 + 2 with the cooler still in place. Waterblocks are unbeaten in this respect but have their own disadvantages ( over time ).
If the cooler thing is managable, test the new kit on its own in 2nd and 4th slot, see if they XMP. if they do, insert the old kit in Slot 1 and 3 and hope the best, the ONE BEEP :)
If they dont, come back and we'll see what can be done other than sending them back.
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I didnt wanna sound rude or put you in a bad light.
The manual has pics/ scheme layout printed that makes it easier to understand with 1 look than 1000 words can do.
Usually ( there are rare exceptions ) you populate the 2nd and 4th slot with modules if you only have 2. The reason for 2nd and 4th is signal integrity. If you put two modules in Slot 1 and 3 it may or may not work, 2 and 4 is to be preferred.
If you have 4 modules, use all 4, fairly simple and easy.... Just in your special case with 2 kits, it is advised to keep the kits on one channel each, Kit#1 does Channel 1 and Kit #2 serves Channel 2, then your chances are far higher it will work as if you shuffle them and use a mixed layout with 1 Channel populated with 1 module from Kit #1 and 1 module from Kit #2. That has less chances to work and is not recommended. Keep the kits together, mark them with a pencil if needed. 1 matched kit per channel.
If they dont boot, change the kit's channel, move kit#1 to channel #2 and vice versa. That can help but if it comes that far chances are high they wont run properly.
In any case, when you missed that page you left half the bandwidth on the table. That's when I thought pointing to RTFM could have saved you there but I do get the point of too much new stuff in too little time, no worries, I wanna help and not accuse. :)
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Uaahh, a clear no-go !
There is a manual to your motherboard, and you may have heard the "RTFM" thing before :book:
Without going into detail, you will have very little chance to get them working that way as a 4-kit beyond 2133MHz, if at all.
Second, they way you have it now you are wasting 50% of your bandwidth, you run 64bit bandwidth, with the 2 modules in the proper slots you'd have 128bit and twice the bandwidth/speed.
- 2 modules setup: 2A + 2B = 128bit ( not 1a + 1b, the circuits dont like that setup )
- 4 modules setup: 1A + 1B first Kit _and_ 2A + 2B second Kit
Your Mobo Manual for sure has a page covering all possible configs in detail, follow that.
You have to take the cooler off, yes.
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No,
the components, like VRM ( Voltage regulation parts ) are usually of higher quality, same goes for LAN, cheap is RealTek, good is Intel. Again, the devil is hidden in the detail here.
On paper they look very alike but if you can afford it, get the X470 ROG Strix.
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The less time has passed between purchase between the kits the more likely but there is no guaranty it will work. A kit of 4 is a matched pair of 4 that have been tested to run in dual and quad channel config.
Vendors sometimes use diffwerent IC's on different batches, so it could be that 1 kit is Samsung and the other is a Micron kit, sometimes both are on the shelf same time, that is why you buy 4 as a kit and not 2 kits of 2 from the same booth, despite the boxes look the same.
The devil is in the detail here, more than anywhere else.
If they dont run in XMP together with the current kit then send them back and get a refund, sell your old kit and get a kit of 4.
What can happen is that they will do XMP but throw off some BSOD every other day, sometimes not for a week and then 2 BSODs on one day, that is the nasty part of RAM.
Even if they pass each and any RAM test, they must run without BSOD for weeks and weeks.
I can tell you that mine ran at 3200 CL14 for 4 weeks fine, pass any test and thzen in week #5 I got 1 or 2 BSODs each day. Reverted back to 3000CL14 and no BSOD in 3 months. It's a matched kit of 4, ran flawless at rated XMP 3600CL16 in my other board for a year but refuse any higher than 3000 in this Z370 board of mine in sig. Tho I do blame the board and not my specific kit.
Just want to outline how tricky RAM can be when it comes to throw off some BSOD or other bad habits.
50/50 sirrah...you will find out.
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It is compatible, you will need to flash a newer Bios onto the board.
There are two methods for this board since it does NOT have a BIOS FLASHBACK button, which would make it very easy to do it yourself.
1. Get a LOANER CPU directly from AMD for free. Flash with that compatible CPU and then send it back to AMD. Article link here: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3409053/amd-has-a-loaner-program-for-third-gen-ryzen-pcs-that-wont-boot.html
2nd Option is from CCL website at cclonline.com ( UK )
Motherboard BIOS Update Service
Purchase a B450/X470 motherboard, Ryzen 3000 series processor, and our BIOS Update Service, and we'll update the motherboard to the latest BIOS before shipping for FREE (normally £9.99).
Either buy the CPU also from CCL and then it will be for free, or buy the CPU elsewhere and pay them £9.99, whichever is cheaper considering postage for the CPU as well if ordered elsewhere.
I'd do the CCL deal and get both from them.
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No, the 3600x beats the 2600x series in IPC by a mile
...and follow Demon 's PSU device
Great for DCS or any other sim/game or other sins ;)
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my understanding as that 4 sticks is slower than 2. So if you can go 2x16 in one hit, do that.
They are more tricky do get working but not slower, T-Topology vs. Daisy-Chained layout on motherboard. What matters is the amount of Ranks filled.
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:thumbup:
For a little more, you could go 3rd gen Ryzen wit same board, say a R5-3600 or 3600X
You could postpone things like SSD or case ( ok, lots of work to put in new case..but worth it)
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2x 16GB or 4x8GB is both dual rank and thus a good layout.
if you were to go for 16GB, then a 4x4GB was better in terms of speed than 2x8GB. The 2x8GB has the option of adding 2 more modules with the downside of being single rank until you add another 2 modules, then it would become a dual rank setup as well.
Now lets see if all four will do XMP and if they do it, if they will BSOD once or twice a week or even day. That is the hurdle to take, XMP and stability with mixed kits.
Let's hope the best.
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9900k or 9900X ??
Both exist and are 2 totally different chips when it comes to chipset, K uses Z390 and X usues X299.
All Z97 chipsets use DDR3, there is no DDR4 with a 4790k Devil's Canyon platform or any other 4th gen Intel i-series CPU for what I know.
I'd take the 9900k if that is a valid config for your buddy. The 9900X is far more expensive so is the X299 motherboard if you compare 2 boards of equal goodies.
If you somehow can, go AMD and forget Intel.
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Can you list what kind of RAM you have ?
use this tool if you dont know how,..and make a screenshot or such
http://www.softnology.biz/files/thphn160.zip
Taiphoon Burner, a de facto standard tool to read your RAM. Dont mind the other options it has, you only needs its detailed listing capabilities.
The more speedy and tight latency your RAM is the harder or next to impossible it will be to match another kit.
IF you can sell it for fair money, DO THAT, it is A LOT safer than trying to match another kit, that up front.
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no, both work, KB installed on the 11th and both do start and run as normal.
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Absolutely ! Link below...
you sniped me :gun_sniper: :thumbup:
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as Rudel says.
I may add that SkateZilla's DCS Updater Tool is an excellent tool to manage DCS as a whole.
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My tip: for a quick fix:
make a new Admin User Account and see if that works, if yes, move ya stuff over and del the old one and forget that guy and his video
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I have stopped about 60% thru the video.
Lemme tell it short, I woudnt follow this guide.
He's got 8GB RAM, he may need to turn off stuff, with 32GB and 8c/16t there is no urgency to turn ALL of that stuff off and many things he turned off can be turned OFF right when you install 10.
Turning OFF part of Windows Security made me laugh, cmon, he seeks attention more than he knows things.
No, there are plenty better videos and foremost TOOLS that have a REVERT ALL SETTINGS I CHANGED button.
It can be a maze run to find the thing that crippled yours with all the stuff he messed with.
No, no and again no imho
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Snake,
I was not criticizing your statement, actually I wanted to 2nd yours :)
It is indeed a very complex matter and I don't look at myself as being fully aware of how cores and threads are handled in any OS, I am a general admin and no programmer with deep inside knowledge. My statement is based on systems I had myself in the last 4-5 years, 2600k, 6700k, 7700k and now 8700k and what other's with X99/5930k or similar HEDT systems stated. I can enable PL but I see no benefit on my end, it also doesnt lower performance either,
so for my 7700k and 8700k it made zero difference with HT on or off. I tested a few runs with less cores and saw no benefit either, heck, I had nothing to complain when I started those tests, they were out of curiosity for the matter itself.
I think we both agree mostly, if I am wrong, PM me..LoL
My most expensive module by far... feeling bad..
in DCS: Ka-50 Black Shark
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If there is 1 Module that is worth every penny paid, it's the Ka-50 imho.
Flying that P-47D-23 in my sig costs around 750ml or better said 10€ per 10min flight, due to 20% Nitromethan and 20% Synthetic Oil for that Roots-Supercharged 1.20 Cubic Inch 4-Stroke OS Engine. THAT is expensive per minute of fun, tho I wouldn't wanna miss the thrill and sound.
Same goes for the Ka-50, I wouldnt wanna miss that thrill & kick, it is just that much cheaper and if I crash, well, hit the ESCAPE button and start over. Not so with R/C planes, Motorcycles or Sports Cars.
I will happily pay for the BS3 upgrade.