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There were Un-Upgraded F-5Es with Refuling Probes. It was an Option from the start. As an example. Here is a Moroccan F-5E on its way to be Delivered in 1981. And as you can see it has a Refuling Probe.

If they add it it should be optional. I dont think they should add it as default as most F-5Es never had the Refueling probe.

Yes there was. Its just that Canada Decided for the Refuling Probe for the aircraft they bought (as any Canadian fighter will be required to fly long distances so a refuling probe is a must) But look at the NF-5. the CF-5s Built by Canadair for the Netherlands airforce. They did not have the Refuling probe. Because the Netherlands airforce did not see it as needed as it was only supposed to be used in the European Theatre and as such the distances where small enough to where it had not need for Refuling capabilities to fulfill its mission. Just because The Canadian airforce decided on the refuling probe does not mean it was not an Optional addition. And out of the two nations that Acquired new built CF-5s (Canada and the Netherlands) one of them Chose a Refuling Probe and the other did not.

Well they have stated they would be willing to add the Maverick if they got good information on how it was used with the F-5E (How the AGM-65 capable display looked / worked etc)

The Refuling Probe was Optional. So if the User wanted a Refuling probe their F-5Es would be fitted with Refuling probes before Delivery. The Probe was optional with the CF-5 as well.

Just remember You dont need to jettison the Centerline External tank to enter AA config. As long as its empty of fuel its light enough. So when your centerline is empty you should change to AA config. (as the CONF warning light will be lit if you are not in AA config at that point)

What about PIPin and PIPout? :music_whistling:

If we get a Aim-9P4 or P5 il kiss you all ^^. If we dont il curse you but buy the module anyway ^^

sure but that estimate was from ED and not Leatherneck.

Thats not true though. All the AGM capable F5E users i listed had APQ-159 Radars (APQ-159-1 For The 5E and 159-2 for their 5Fs) and the RWR could be either the later or earlier variant depending on customer desire. But to my knowledge most of them had the later type RWR (like the one we are getting) As the only significant changes to use the AGM-65 was the different display and wiring for the pylons. Not even sure there was a F-5E with the APQ-153 using the AGM-65.

They have stated Earlier that they would be open to adding the AGM-65 capability if they got detailed information on how the AGM-65 capable Display looked/worked and how the AGM-65s were used. If they get enough info to make a accurate modeling of it they will do it but they wont just do guess work to add the AGM-65. And to Clarify the only difference between the AGM-65 capable F-5E and the F-5E that was not able to use the AGM-65 was Pylon Wiring and a slight change of the Radar Display (Giving it a TV mode to show the Seeker info) And plenty of nations had F-5Es that could carry AGM-65s (without major upgrades)

Pro tip about the Ghost contacts though. With this tip its very easy to tell the real ones from the fakes. Below the Chevron of real contacts there is the merge velocity in mach numbers. (The merge Velocity is the speed at which you approach each other) That number is only there for real contacts whether is be friendly or enemy. So numbers below the Chevron = Real contact no numbers below the chevron = Ghost contact. (The Number is display directly below the Chevron like this V 1.6 )

it sure is a good looking bird =>. I just wish they had painted the AJS 37 in the Splinter camo it wore for most of its career (and all of that particulat AJ/AJS 37s career) Because it feel that is the way a Viggen "should look" and its the way most of us swedes remember it (even if plenty of JA 37s had a grey Paintscheme the splinter camo was still the typical Viggen "look")

Making a mod where you give it a SU-25 cockpit should not be impossible (as far i know atleast) The external model for the AI SU-17 is pretty old though (very low texture and does not look too good) . I would love to see a Full Su-17/22 modules though => its probably one of the aircraft i want the most for DCS.

I would buy the F-5E.

Im just very curious what Aim-9P variants they are going to add. And i very much hope and beg them to add atleast 2 Aim-9P variants (one rear aspect and one all aspect) Since the Aim-9P4 and Aim-9P5 are used on F-5Es all over the world and has been since the early/mid 80s. (Aim-9P4 and P5 being the All aspect Aim-9P variants)

Just to clarify We are getting the AN/APQ-159-3 as the that was the single seat variant and the 159-4 was for the twin seat F-5F variant. (radar was the same only difference was if it was tied to one or two displays) Similarly the APQ 159-1 was the single seat and the 159-2 was the twin seat of the combination with the AGM-65 capable display. Air to ground weapons will be Dumb bombs and rockets as well as possibly being able to carry LGBs but needing external lasing to guide them. With Air-Air weapons being limited to the Gun and Aim-9s. There is no word on exactly what variants of Aim-9s we will get other then that we will get Aim-9Bs and Aim-9Ps but no word on what Aim-9P variants (as there are both Rear aspect and all aspect variants and the F-5E can and does carry both types) .

Yea the radar is for Search aswell as Ranging targets and to help with targeting (giving cues as how to fly to find/hit the target) . It can not guide weapons.

Those were for the F-5A only. The F-5E can not mount the Wingtip Tanks. No the standard F-5Es does not have radar guided missiles (Some 21 century upgraded variants have radar guided / BVR weapons but the standard variants had the Aim-9s as the only air-air missiles.) But this was not seen as a problem in the 70s as the Radar guided missiles of the time did not have a significant advantage over IR guided missiles. After all the F-16 did not have any Radar guided missiles when it entered service either in 1980. And the F-5E was never supposed to be a air-superiority aircraft but a light multi role aircraft.

As i already stated thats only for the US Aggressor F5Es. They cant actually fire the missile its only able to use Training missiles (Real seekers with a Dummy missile body / rocket). These Dummy missiles are used in Training Air combat as you can get a Missile lock with them and then claim a simulated kill. But it cant carry/ Fire Live Aim-9Ls and neither could Factory standard F-5Es. The most capable missiles the standard F-5E could carry would be the All Aspect Aim-9P4 And Aim-9P5 missiles.

The Standard F-5E is not able to carry Aim-9L/M for combat. the US aggressor aircraft are able to carry the Aim-9M dummy missiles (working seeker dummy rocket) To be used during the Practice dogfights. But no F-5E (Without major upgrades) is able to carry and fire Aim-9L/M missiles. The only All Aspect Aim-9s for the F-5E would be the Aim-9P4 and Aim-9P5. They are have Aim-9P3 bodies together with All Aspect Seekers. With the Aim-9P4 seeker being based of the Aim-9L seeker and the Aim-9P5s seeker being based of the Aim-9M seeker. The Aim-9 P4 and P5 have the Same body/Fins as the other Aim-9P variants and seems to only differ visually when it comes to the seeker head. As an example here are 2 Swiss F-5s with Aim-9P5s.

Thats only for the 21 century Upgraded variants. We are getting a Standard F-5E (Factory standard) so Aim-9s will be the only Air-Air missile and it can only carry 2 (1 on each wingtip) The only Real question on the missile side is what Aim-9 Variants. If we will get Rear Aspect only (Aim-9B and Aim-9P3) Or a All Aspect Aim-9P as well (Aim-9P4 or P5) I very much hope and assume they will add a P4 or P5 as the all Aspect Aim-9Ps have been the standard Air-Air missile for a Large number of the F-5E Operators since the early/mid 80s. And all of the largest operators (except for Iran for obvious reasons) have used the All Aspect Aim-9P4 or Aim-9P5 together with the F-5E. So not giving the F-5E the Aim-9P4 or P5 would be kinda like the Mig-29 not having R-73s.

may i ask do you use Pedals? and if so what pedals?

Dont really have anything to do with Production cost. And also since most of the Modules are from different devs they use different codes. But mostly its not about production cost. Just like games in general they tend to cost the same when they are New and then the price is lowered over time. And yes they reuse code but its still a ton of work for a module. The Code is always evolving and being updated for every module they do (and very likely its updated or parts are remade during the making of a module)

But the Mig-21 has been out for 2 years... So the Price is not the same as it was on release... You cant Expect a Newly released product to have the same price as one that has been out for a few years. in two years time im sure the F-5E will be the same price as the Mig-21 is today (20% less then it is today and the mig-21 might be even lower priced). The newly released Products have higher price tags not because they drive up the prices but because they are new and as they become older the prices will go down to 20%. So if you buy it on Pre purchase you will get it cheaper then it will be for the next 1-2 years (Except for future sales ofc).