Icarus2

No secret at all. Google is your friend. I got the Samsung 7" TFT's on eBay. I use MFD Extractor to put the MFD's on the screens. Go to http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=bfbff052ffeff1d18495f251d8091b07&topic=3376.0 for more info on MFDE. The TFT's are USB screens that run off my kitchen computer in network with my sim rig. Because USB only runs a few feet, I had to get a USB/Cat6 converter and send it over a Cat6 cable (30') and convert it back to USB. The USB screens use two USB ports each and have their own USB hub, so now my sim rig has 34 USB ports (four not in use). Its not that hard, but it takes a little fiddling.:joystick:

Two 7" TFT's behind the Cougar MFD's. Works great. Just have to mount them now.

No American dist. But you can get them here for a price shipped to US. http://secure.simmarket.com/thrustmaster-mfd-cougar-pack.phtml

A plate of those and a bottle of Chambertin and I'd be set up nicely. Well, the Chambertin would set me up tomatoes or not, that's my fav.:D

Have you actually done it with more than 2 monitors with SLI enabled, if so how? I'm using 180.22 and they don't do more than two monitors. Perhaps you can show me how.:) So, far as I see you have to disable SLI to get 3-4 monitors in order to replace TH2G.

Can't do three screens with SLI. Only two. You need to disable SLI to do more tha two screens. In addition, I don't believe you can span the sim across them either, not sure about that though.

Did you install the 64 bit Crysis? Read this. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/98638-13-crysis-vista

I understand now. I don't love Vista, I find it hard to love any OS, 'cause its just an OS. If it works ok thats all I ask of it. I have a quadcore and it all four cores get used by Vista if the software allows it. For BS, the affinity trick really works. I don't know if that qualifies to say Vista supports quadcore or not. If Vista needs to force quad support on all programs to qualify, then no it does not, but it does allow their use. I suppose if you have below 2.5Gb ram then Vista is not for you. I have never had a game or sim use more than 2 GB ever on my computer including Crysis and BS. Perhaps the SLI cards clear out the graphics to allow the Ram to only be used for AI, I don't know. On my computer, I can run Falcon, F4Glass all my apps on three monitors all on the same computer. I don't know anyone without a quad that can do that. Most have to run F4Glass on a seperate computer and network it to the other monitor. I believe what will make or break W7 is how user friendly it is. Vista not so good in that department. That said, I too am looking forward to Windows 7, which is only an upgrade of Vista anyway, M$ has admitted. Afterall, they are ultimately all upgrades of MSDOS! :D

Firstly, I am no M$ fanboy, just so you know. But I have none of these problems and Vista runs very nicely. I don't understand what the problem is. I have no issues whatsoever. No performance issues, I run every game and sim with excellant FPS with everything on. I also run 3 monitors, and a DLP projector with no issues, nor do I have any memory issues eventhough I have a cap on my memory with Vista 32. I also use DX10 with DX9 installed as well. When Vista first came out I had a few issues, most of which were me not understanding the difference between Vista and XP and installing XP drivers on Vista. Also Vista has a very different filing system that takes some time to figure out where it keeps your files, but once you know it is easy. Once I sorted that out and SP1 came out, I reformatted and did a clean install and its been clear sailing ever since (one spontaneous reboot since SP1 only). I should also say I am no computer techy, so I have no technical reasoning behind what I say. I am just telling my experience, which is obviously different from some. I was not trouble free on XP, it is not perfect, although it was quite stable. But looking at the poll on the Forum, most Vista owners love it, despite most BS forum goers are still using XP. Is it fear fear of change to something different? Or do some peoples equiptment just not integrate with Vista very well? I am interested. Its -28 here, great OC weather:cold:

Cool, very nice setup. These last temps are more what I would expect. Your HD is higher here. Nice property too BTW. I can taste the tomatoes (in my mind) all the way over in Canada.:smilewink:

You mean the water is being rendered under the ground layer, right. Thus, on ground only views the comp has to render full screen water underneath? What an FPS waster. No wonder water on high kills the fps so much. You have to render the helos, a city and all its objects and full on water (that doesn't even show) all at the same time. Whew!

I have seen that all four cores of my quad are working in F4AF. They are on in affinity and I have watched then share the load (not evenly I might add) on my second monitor. One core takes on the most, a second runs markedly lower and the other two run very low, likely taking on all the apps I run. With SLi and the quad i can also run F4Glass on the same machine while running F4AF and no or unnotcable fps hits.

That's cool. I just don't understand how hot hard drives can be below room temperature unless you have air/liquid colder than room temperature passing over them? To get them to 60F from say 80F you need something like 40-45F air blowing on them. I know on my machine the CPU temps are accurate but the system temp is totally fubar (29F in 68F room, whichis impossible). Either way its not the liquid cooling.

That Vapochill of yours is very nice Monnie, but I bet your HDD's are not 14C (indoors).:smilewink: I live in Canada man, its -25C here today, I know what cool room temps are like! Hehe Brrrrrrrrrrrrr. If I put my rig on the balcony i could OC the snot out of it. :)

Do you have watercooled hard drives too? Those temps are very cold all over, below room normal temperature. Especially 59F-66F for the drives (80-90F would be normal). Unless your watercooling is refridgerated, you would have a cool CPU/GPU(if also cooled), and the rest are above room temp. I'm wondering if those readings are not accurate?? Curious.:)

Well, I've had it with Steam. I did everything correctly and it is still fubar. Their customer service is zero. I do not trust any company that will not return customer support emails. Sorry, but entities that operate in that manner do not deserve my buisiness. I don't need them, they need me. I got BS fron DCS and all is well. To bad Steam, Goodbye for good, I just removed you from my hard drive.

To be fair, I think Steam is having issues. Yeterday, I installed Steam and registered properly and they keep saying incorrect login. This is not correct as I cut and pasted my account name and password, so its not me. I also contacted them twice and no reply.

Yes, I think my 24" is a S-PVA. Thanks for all the info and work, I can now do much better research. The NEC's appear to be very good. I think I should try to find some of these on display somewhere and see them for myself, that would be optimal. Thanks again Icarus

Funny, I read that article just after I made the post. Here is what I have this now: Samsung SyncMaster 2443BW Do you know which one is this one? I'm guessing TN, but sellers don't speak of such things. If I get a 30" monitor, I would only be using it for gaming (mostly Falcon). Viewing angle is of no account to me as I am sitting right in front of it and I don't move around when I game. However, picture quality, resolution, colour and detail (and saving my eyes as I game in a dark room most of the time) are important. Price is also a factor, but not a deal breaker if the difference is big enough. Any suggestions? Thanks Icarus

I've looked at a lot of LCD monitor specs and i've never seen these terms before. Could you please expand on this?

I have both and I hate the seams with three monitors. They are often in unfortunate locations. My projector is a Benq W5000 and it is awesome, but it needs to be back a ways if you are using a 10 foot screen or you have to move your head around just to see the left and right side of the screen. This is awkward with TIR. Thus, a 30" monitor at very close proximity is hard to beat with its clarity and detail. Just my opinion. 5' Projection five feet away, no problem viewing detail at 1920 x 1080i

At the time I bought my comp, 64 driver support was weak so I bought 32 bit. I did get 4 GB RAM in anticipation for future 64bit uograde when driver support got better. Now its better, I'm waiting for software that uses more than 2G to make the move. I don't want to rock the boat if i don't have to.

I agree. My computer assigns excactly as you mention. I also watch my RAM usage and have never used over 2 GB of RAM on any sim or video game to date. (my system will not allow more than 2.5G due to SLI 8800 ultra's) The reason people don't know this is because no one tells them when they buy a computer with 32bit that they only can use 2G RAM with SLI G VRAM. Most encourage you to buy 8G if the Mobo has the slots. Sad.

Actually, Vista 32 recognises 4 GB of memory total. That includes the amount of Video memory. It sees video memory first then allocates what is left over to RAM. Since you are recocnising 3.5Gb of RAM on your system then you likely have a 500mb video card. If you have 1GB video memory you will only get 3 GB RAM etc. So everytime you upgrade your video card your RAM total drops no matter how much you have installed.

Either ALT-Pause/Break or CTL-Pause/Break, I forget right now, I'm at work.