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this deka EA manual doesnt mention it on start up https://www.docdroid.net/LBewo8R/dcs-jf-17-quick-guide-en-pdf#page=25 Im almost certain ive blacked out not doing it, im so curious Im gonna try it now lol

but you dont seem to understand. if you do not attach the hose and turn tank on and pressurize cockpit (and the warning panel lights up if u dont) you pass out I know where all the ram air stuff on the f14 is are u talking about right hand console you click over to the left once or you overheat? I understand totally that above 13k you start losing conciousness slowly faster higher. i get the concept. however I thought the jff17 was diff for whatever reason this still does NOT explain that Ive flown 1 hour plus missions using the o2 the way I was taught no issue. again prob is only that mission. I flew a 30 min channel mission at 30k several dce campaign jf17 missions 30 to 40 k tank on entire time Can you sure me where in chucks guide or a start up tutorial where it tells you to not turn on the air or says you only neeed it high? I literally *EVERY* tutorial says use it, when I havent Ive blacked out PDQ. And not in that mission. So if you can not use the o2 until a certain alt what do you set it to ram air? and where? wheres the knob?

in my thread in the 2.5 forums ed staff said its a bug and will be fixed next patch

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Wait wait. Theree a 2nd tank??? Ore just the one where u turn knob (by canopy where ur left arm.is) and then u click the console button by the radio? Theres a 2nd oxygen bottle? Im gonna look in chucks guide i MEVER heard this. Every tutorial video and chuks guide says its essentual.to plug in and use the tank im using. Ill also add the issue disappeared - its THE ONE MISSION in the camp I have the camp and mission if someone wants.tontell me how to extract that miz and wants to test lmk. Onset usually is rapid like within first 20

@p80 Is therean easyvn way to assign my jf17s to a su25 or su24 squadron andngive kutaisi backnto flankers? The jeff rlly shines.in precision strike and ASM The air to air i learned to fight and kill the USN and actually would live maybe half the time. Muuuch harder against tomcats. If dcs js like.real life for real the USN REALLY lost somme a3a ability with the aim54 gone. Rwr shows f18s concern but not rlly F14s? Constant stress about when ill g3t the warning meamont.th3 m8ssiles alrey about to hit.. Of course amraams putbull. But i can almost match their range with sd10s. Aim54s? Theyve shot 20 miles.before i have often

Nailed it Camt handlenit buy the bug and let your plane do everything

Like sitting on tarmac? Not sure will try in am. It works fine in my dce campaign i just got 3 hornets (ty aeria) You WILLL go out no matter what i noticed if you dont pressurize. Doesnt matter what alt. Youll get the hypoxia death

@p80 Flanker over caucauses The one we switched? Sank one carrier, 1 cruiser 1 dd, other tf to 62% on 3rd sortie. I didnt actually sink them, first mission kia. 2nd 2 kills f14s and some missiles hit the tf that lost the stennis. Mission 3 i bagged 3 f18s and landed. And watched backfires win the war.

Ty i tried it. Ill report back either on a squad nite or when someone can play. I dont like air quaking it.

Ty big newy but tried it said was alrdy up tondate

All the russian stuff whether 80s or new is the same. I suspect its real. Howevee om *mission 3* of flanker over caucayses that p80 modded for me to fly jr17s enough missiles got thru to *sink a US cv and 3 dds/cvs! Mission 2 saw seveeal bad hits. Missiom 3 saw the sinkings. I was shocked..just chance. Sometimee they just.. make it

Really because my speakers identify as "realtek" Edit - theyre up to date :(

Yeah i def been cold starting frm day 1. Its how my learning process for dcs goes. It helps.me understand the plame. I def am turning the knob in the direction im supposed to ob my left. Im def clicking the little rnd port and seeing the hose appear over the hole I def am.pressurizing my pit I mean if it continues ill record a track And yes im turning that knob once to the left to coool the pit or engine otherwise you go out Edit,: Unfortunately it has to be the mission. Ill do further testing but i jjust did PG cold start and flew at 30 k for most the flight plan at 43 i topped out for a few miles (lotsa rime accel) and landed.. no issues..

But thats exactly it man. Seriously what else can I do besides turn tbe oxygen knob the entire way the other direction, than hit the plug for the oxygen and close canopy, then pressurize? Please explain how I flew the campaign and successfully used SD10s at hi alt like u said to and it worked with no prob? Id think its my setup too - but theres no warning and as I said once it begins theres NO stopping it. Ive descened to 5k in about 1 .min was still concious. I also tried doing this an unplugging and depressurizing but not opening canopy nothing. It only sesms that mission so far. Ill try a cold start training mission now; then a dcs mission. But seriously - it maked no sense thst id only have these issues in this one mission, and with several restarts

Its OPERATION BLACK BEAR. I believe last mission - hunt the enemy awacs. Otherwise awesome campaign. I do have another way to test - and I have to use release. Thats where p80 helped me switch a flanker squad for a jf17 squad in DCE flanker over caucauses Im not the type to run 500 tests guys and after runnung the same 30 min sortie from cold stsrt to bug legit maybe 6 times im burnt out I wont have any *aneceotal.evidence* on the issue until 8 pm est earliest. Theres something here.

Sry heres photo Scrn

Time photo Sorry for angle its so u can see 12 31 (starts at 12 ) And pilot dead no reason no crash nada

Ok. Same mission. This legit just happened, again, and i orsered flight to engage primary and hoping id fly dead long enuff for mission accimplished. Suddenly after awhile i awoke at 17k! This MAY be a G issue but if so somrthings rlllllly bugged with accelersting suddenly and then moving even a little. Because im not new to the jeff, and normal blall outs are totally diff. This its not sudden. Theres nothing u can do. Level our it will happen. And its in the air (not tested) wherher u awake. Normal black outs stopping turns can reveese, the black outs not always ineviteable, and im not doing some insane maneuver. I mean moving at 340 indicated 31k and turning at a 10 degree bank strbrd 5 degrees. Look guys im not tryin to b a PITA but somethings here Edit: NOPE not Gs. Just ran it AGAIN. Its the last mission on the userr made csmosogn.. ill edit name in second. I was flying strait and level. Blackout out. After a long while at 25k on auto the pilot just.. died. This happened 31 minutes in mission see crappy screen

Illnasd theres a gauge with ur oxy levels. Itd easy to see. Ivve. Never flown a long long enuff to ger it to 1/4 total I didnt rum out. And airborne the engine gases would.be in the slipstream. Going.below 10k and unnpressuring the canopy (still closed) SHOULD and IRL would let flying w.onmask

Well i was wrong. Somewhat .mostly. if.youre at altitude and speed theyre quite deadly Howeber the oxygen issue Thsts a bug. @ aeria gloria

It definitely is

Yes i do that. Howeber ive most definitely.flown longer than 40.min I also am.not gettn a warning light No dude. All due respect.im not a nugget with the jeff theres.a bug here How else.can you explain sealed pit black outnon ramp.reststt works (Last night) Take.off 15.min.in blackout and crash. Alt 10k Restart flew.mission at 15k and finished. (Checkpoint strike.mission) Thisnis a bug and is serious. Like it shud be priority

I turn ecs on as soonn as engines on as i noticed yoyll pass out otherwise. Hoa do u turn on heat then? I donttl think this is the issue 1. Cockpit is pressurized 2. Why would i fly 180.miles before the onset? And no ive flown much longer with no issues 3. It seems.to happen A LOT lately

On ramp and in flight. On the bear campaign (user made) i just flew 40 min. Suddenly i get hypoxia symptoms. Nothing had chsnged. No wsrning lights. Rspidly descending didnt help and i soon died On ramp only sealing canopy.prevents this. Closing it should be enough. This doeskt explain the multiple (running on release) incidents with no warning lights nada where id be fl6ing and suddenly hypoxia and death. Its VERY frustrating also on. A long mission