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Actually I was referring to the SAM member of the standard family, but yes the AGM78 is loaded on phantom. Well they are not poor compared to AIM7-E2 which was not supposed to be used on tomcats (the AIM7-F was ordered for tomcats) ,tomcat even had more kills with sidewinder than sparrow, those sparrows (and somewhere I heard the same about the aim9j s that Iran had but I really doubt) were imported to be used on phantoms. the first idea was to replace the sparrow but when we war marched on, the shortage of aim54 showed itself, in many cases pilots had to cancel the enemy mission by just locking them up instead of shooting, and man f-14 can be scary for anyone, and I guess that fear showed itself during gulf war, so the idea changed, the usage of mim23 happened during the war, and war, well it was over by the end of 80s, and today the usage of mim23 is less reasonable as airforce had developed other missiles. that's why I suggest the heat-blur to add the mid 80 option, as before 80s there was no reason to fight an IIAF tomcat, and if you want to simulate today situation that would be impossible because of lack of data. but the mid and late 80s was the time that tomcat had both the option of using mim23 and aim54 ( of course with considering the shortage of aim54). And of course these days there are not much combat able tomcats left in Iran.

yes sir both sedjeel (maybe sejil, god damn it why do they have to use same names on so many different military products :joystick:) and fakour-90 (the Iranian copy of aim54) are under production, and you can find some footage of carriage out of search phase in you tube and they took down some Iraqi aircrafts too. actually the idea of using hawk was after seeing the poor results of aim7 E-2 on f-14 which obviously were not supposed to be used on tomcat but after the revolution the purchase of new aim7s were ceased. they even tested standard missiles on f-4 but because of both terrible results and shortage of standard missiles in navy inventory the shut down the project, there are so many of this projects during the iran iraq history they even tested the m-117 rocket warhead on mim23 missile :noexpression::noexpression::noexpression: and did some tests on it ( yaser project, you might find some test pictures of it) and for obvious reasons the project was simply forgotten. and it has a simple reason to do this, Iran had a limited inventory of aim54, maybe around 250-280 when the war started, more were on the purchase list before the regime change, but the regime change and the attitude of the new regime to USA, caused those purchases to be ceased by USA, so we were unable to buy aim54, we were using them every day to beat the Iraqi air force, which every year was buying more aircrafts ( obviously more advanced ones like mirage f-1 and mig29) and we will go low on aim54, so the only option is finding a new missile, on the other hand during the Iran-contra Iran got some mim23 hawk missiles. So I guess it should make sense why Iran did this. Yaser project test of the yaser project standard missile test on phantom

http://rahrovan-artesh.ir/index.php?/topic/6-%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B4%DA%A9-%D9%87%D9%88%D8%A7%E2%80%8C-%D8%A8%D9%87-%D9%87%D9%88%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D8%B3%D8%AC%DB%8C%D9%84-aim23/ Here's all the available and unclassified footage of usage of mim23 missile on tomcat, you can get someone to translate it for you, it completely explains how they matched the radar and systems with the missiles, then it's up to the readers to decides how much of propaganda it has, after all there are many non English websites that write about Iranian military and are way less poisoned by the propaganda unlike the English ones, so better check those out instead of English ones

my suggestion to leatherneck is a tomcat from mid Iran Iraq war, which does not have much of changes in the systems,and with the mim23 carrying capabilities, as after the war many military showcases were carried with propaganda I've never seen the IRIAF considering the Russian ones as active missiles of tomcat in any airshow, the only evidence of tomcat with r27 is one single shot and some reports which cannot be verified, the only realistic option would be the sedjeel ( mim23) missile which only 2 of them can be carried by tomcat, the rest of the options are not as real as they should be. best regards Alireza

By the time of the regime change, IIAF only had AIM7-E2 brought in by phantoms purchase, and that's one of the reasons F-14 scored only one kill using aim7 during the war.

I don't really think anything called f-14AM would be real, IRIAF is straggling with the spare parts and with the lack of tech needed for upgrading at best I can think of f-14AM as an overhauled f-14 instead of advanced f-14, and yes there are not much of airworthy f-14s left maybe around a dozen or something at best,and the aim54, well most of them were used during Iran Iraq conflict and if there was much left there would be no need to test Russian and mim23 missiles on tomcat, in my opinion some mid 80s representative with those era upgrade of mim23 would be most realistic option for leatherneck to simulate, and of course it was the time that tomcats were really active protecting Iranian air space. best regards from isfahan base of IRIAF tomcats Alireza EDIT: by the way, test of Russian missiles was a total failure, they never worked the right way, so not really wise to consider as an option

and also, the r27 was not more than a prototype and test, but the mim23 was used and then developed by Iran into a new a-a missile called sedjeel (سجيل) they had also developed an Iranian version of aim54 (obviously not as good as the original one) called fakour-90, but as lack of data is obvious , I really think that mim23 option would be the most realistic one. sedjeel missile based on hawk mim23 Fakour-90 iranian version of aim54 sedjeel missile based on hawk mim23 Mim23 or maybe sedjeel on tomcat

wow, by the way mim23 was actually used in combat but the Russian ones were never used and some sort of failed to work with tomcats, but the mim23, they not only worked fine with lots of improvements on both tomcats and mim23 but also scored some kills, I never thought you would have done that, just wow...that's what makes you diffrenet from other developers...wow just wow

believe it or not it actually took shot down some targets, and it took lots of work to be done, you can call it propaganda, like many others calling her kills propaganda. you won't believe any evidence at all so I'm not going to do any discussion about it like or not.:smilewink:

wow, just wow

guys thank you all, it's fixed finaly time to fly some eagle :joystick:

guys, thank you all, the issue is fixed.

roger that, I'll give it a try and report it back here thanks alot for the help :))

just some sounds and texture mods like the 104 terrain texture, nothing more than that. actually I did some cleanups and repairs suggested by the support in my support ticket but no help

it's just like the issue that happened with the mig21 activation, which the fix was given by the leatherneck developers.

every thing tried, non of it worked, actually it's working on v2 and nttr but not on 1.5

I'm not sure if it's with this mod or something else, but after installing this mod all of my fc3 planes are totally gone, by gone, I mean they are active in module manager, they can be chosen as player controlled in mission editor, but when I enter the game, poof, nothing happens, only f-10 menu, and the plane I'm supposed to fly is turned into AI.....even dozens of reinstall and repair did no help....

Even over AIM7-E ?

Show me the tests when you do test this one on f-14:megalol::megalol: (MIM23 hawk missile) I'm going to start a new thread about this project which was done done by IRIAF, later, and yes it actually was used in combat :joystick: test photos test photos I would really love to see tomcat using r27 (ER would be awesome) instead on Aim7E :megalol:

Well that's a hard question, but opening a new thread on this forum for some evaluations might be a good start and also I suggest you do your evaluations in other sims communities to as you mentioned above that your device can be configured on any sim. but yet I don't think these evaluations are going to be that accurate as not every simmer is active on forums like this, and by the way, wish you best luck on your idea :)

Yup the same applies to mine, ruins FPS in populated areas.

And maybe do something like that :P (p3d v4 )

Well not everyone's going to be able to afford those equipments, buying those things here is going to cost around the price of my car :(. And yet missing the full cockpit sim features like movings, shakes, feedbacks and, many other things.:joystick: but yes you exactly got what I'm trying to say here when calling DCS a game in the branch of flight sim.:)

DCS is a game in the branch of flight sim, as some of my friends said it's a game but not an easy one, nobody said about not welcoming the newcomers, helping them is way different than turning a game/simulator into a pure game, I don't really think anyone's going to buy a PMDG product or p3d for the gaming but yet the civilian community is way bigger than what we have here. And turning DCS into a pure game wouldn't help the new comers at all.

I agree on the game part, this is supposed to be a simulator and it's not acceptable to turn it to a game just because of new comers.