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I did not even new that. thank you. This will help As for radars, well, god know what is going on here. tbh, as it is my main frame, I am slightly loosing interest to fly that much.

Since I am newb in A-A fightI usualy stick with TWS and I noticed that my target (MIG-21) sometimes pops on radar then it is gone. That can happen several times on 50-40 nm. I also noticed that target like to "fadeout" from screen slowly and in all those times I am unable to put any kind of lock on target. I am aware that I am not best dogfigther in jeff, but this don't help, not to mention SD-10 horrible target tracking (looks like fairly recent behaviour) nowdays. (I can't recall almost any hit on target with SD-10 in BCR mode. Not sure is this due to radar, or missle prefiormance on game. In tacview, when missle was at target (missed) it was still well above mach 2,2 (forgot exact speed). All in all, I am not happy with radar now. Back when I got Jeff, even with my mediocre skills in BVR I was able to rack up decent nuber of hits when I tried A-A then. Few weeks back, nothing works as it was.

Thank you. Also, I know it is not A-A related but it is Jeff related so I did not wanted to open up another thread. Do you know maybe is there any key to reset target market in targeting pod (WMD7) directly to font center, like and sort of reset?

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AH cool, an added challenge then I guess

i Just tried to engage MiG-21 in RWS mode, but my T5 press lock target just would not work. Isnt that correct button to lock target in radar?

Thank you. Just one correction. in question 3) I meant to say SD-10 not LD-10, my bad. And it is also good to know I can do that in a pinch if plane is infront of me. As for question 2) Freezed radar? It was on and not silent, so i am noto sure.. Ill get back to chuck guide on radar to get better at it. Maybe I figure out where I made mistake.

Hello all. As I am newbie into A-A combat in general, I wanted to ask few questions. 1) Is there Key I could map Fast and simple switch for Weapons when I am in dogfight like PL-5EII/SD-10/GUN? I would love to have that on fast dial. 2) In my test fight I spawned one Mig 21 with only guns (newbie lol) but I had big problems locking it with radar in TWS mode even when he was infront of me. 3) That was weird, but maybe not. As i started to get nervous, I fired one LD-10 while mig was NOT locked but I pointed my plane directly into him and missle emediately locked on and managed to shot it down. Kinda weird, but I presume it entered "mad dog" mode? 4) Do you use in jeff dogfight and BVR any other mode apart from TWS? From what i managed to find arround TWS is usualy main RDR of choice for most Jeff pilots. Thank you for help

Thank you for tips

Here is quick report to give you some perspective. I tested this on similar mission to one I posted above on SA-2 site. I went and tried that "alternative" sead mission with GB6 SFW GPS guided cluster munitions. I climbed at 39000 ft which was well ceiling due to heavy weapons, shot both missles to two independet targets from 40 nm well out of SA-2 site range and wreacked havock on it. Nothing survived, 2 radars, 5 missle trucks and support veichles. And all that I watched from safe distance. I must also point that In classic LD-10 ( i did one more) and went to 20 nm and shot last LD-10 today in SP mode ( I got shot with several missles by that point) just to test will it hit target at all..and well it did not. So, it it is not only range issue, it is also targeting issue aswell. Anways, for now I got myself "new" sead munitions at least.

True. I presumed that later. I guess when 5-6 jeffs went on mission they woud down defended ship.

I managed to make fast mini mission to minimize file and I managed to ZIp it so log and trk fit on forum. So I posted. I don't belive anything was off, LD-10 was aligned as I started hot, still as precaution I updated DTC (failed on first try up in air). Anyway. All missles failed be in in PAS or SP mode once I got locked and fired. Last one I shos in PAS mode on locled radar just to see what will happen, but all failed miserably. ALt 30000 ft, distance of 1st missle 30 nm, then 25 nm and last one I can't honestly remeber as I got shot on xd. I hope that someone can figure out what is happenning as apart that missle got short range now, they also did not hit anything. And lets be honest, if I need to get any closer to SAM site to get it shot down, I'd rather play something else. Yea, my first supicions happened on servers, but I did several in solo. I need not to say that couple of months ago all worled flawlessly anwhere I'd go with LD-10, solo, server or whatever.

Ok, so that you don't say that I did not help. Here is situation. I amanged barely to squeze trk file in a zip so it can be uploaded along with log. I started hot from runday to speed things up (tried from air but it looks like game did nup updated DTC). I climbed to 30000 ft. and fired first missle from 30 nm away in PAS mode, failed miserably way before site. 2nd missle at 25 nm if I remeber well, got closet but still failed and then I did last two one in SP mode and one in PAs again, none nit and all failed short as always last one I fired fell like just infront of missle site. SOmething is waay of. This is not normal. dcs.log tempMission.miz.trk.zip

Why? trk file is 45 mb long. If I new how to make it smaller I would do it.

Intereting to see this many happy JF-17 pilots. I loved this plane untill recently when I realised that now LD-10's are missing targets in like 90% of times, 802AK missing also mostly, depends on the mood of game. At least laser guided rockets now work and bombs..Yeee. This will keep me occupided...for and hour and then what. I bought this plane at had very nice selection of A/G munitions along with capable sead and now well it is expensive data block on my SSD. As much as I wanna curse like mad man I just got dissapointed. I guess nowdays JF-17 cannot have better weapons from thei NATO counterparts. I do hope that politics did not get involed into game. maybe it is time for me that I look up some other game. I am getting too old for this cr.p Or maybe ED is trying to make me buy F-18? Well that aint gonna happend any time soon as they will mess up that too, usualy after I buy module. Rant off. See you all.

I tried to shoot AK few more times, damn missle started tracking boat only once (I stop to care about anyway) and even then it got shot down by ship defence lol. So I can target unarmed ship if it dont get mugged Yeee! along with mess of LD-10 and severely reduced SFW damage zone (not sure about that one), i don't have anything to do now with this plane and exactly those features were my buy point when plane got out. Jeez, I'd better not tell anything to my wife. She will not be happy.

i would add trk file, but it has 45 mb. Anyway. I was shooting from 40000 ft. I need not to say that none of missle hit anything. I shoot first from about 38 nm, 2 from 30 nm and last two below 25 nm. All missed, and fell short of any radar they targeted. As we all know, that SEAD was for most of us one of jeff best features, this plane is almost ruined now. I mean in A-A it is lacking at best (especialy with my skils), and I only got left with laser guided rockets and almost always misssing anti ship missle. I will stop since it looks like I am entering rant mode. dcs.log

I just realised that missle became ussless crap tbh. I could nicely take down sam sites, but not anymore. I would for sure get shot down way before I can get even close to range of anything..even crappy old BUk. This needs to be fixed. I found this article: https://codex.uoaf.net/index.php/JF-17_-_LD-10_Anti-Radiation_Missile says it should have 10-20nm range even if it is launched from 10000 ft, 40-50 when launched from 40000. I nowdays due to this only use SFW's (untill this also get messed up). I would like to know why? My usual launch altitude is about 35000 ft in PAS mode and It falls usualy at about 25 nm More or less with out locking anything, or maybe it cant reach lock. Speed is also dropping like mad althouh real missle is much more capable than what we got.

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Hello all, I just wanted to ask did you have any issues with 802 ak missle while in DIR mode. I was using radar in SEA1 mode, ship locked, missle aligned but after missle was fired and went on target, poped up and just went up and missed trajectory of ship aswell. Either there is bug which I do not know of, or I missed something. Tips for usage of 802 AK in DIR mode are most welcome aswell.

Nobody in EU does not fly JF-17? Is there maybe few people interested to make a group od "Misfits" so we can fly what we want to? I am open to this solution too. From Europe area that is due to avaliablility.

I never tried INS alignment via ground request, but I will do that now. it might help. Ty

Hello virtual (and real) pilots. I am dedicated JF-17 pilot, EU based and I would like to find group to fly with. I do sometimes also fly L-39 but it is very rarely these days and i am focused on perfecting my jeff skills. Anyway, I am a bit rusty as I did not fly for same reason i am here now posting this. I was not able to find any group to fly with. ALso one thing to notice is I only use basic Causasus map (well and other free ones ) and I fly 16h to 23h CET Anyway, hit me with message if you think I might fit in your group.

I just a while ago started my jeff and realised (I was off game for few months) that sms mof is way off from before. Is there some bugs regarding to that or something? I took off with BRM's to test lasing as it was buged, but after automatic start (yea i got rusty) it looks like data catridge did not loaded properly as I could not select my weapons apart from guns. Instead I could select all usual weapons i can put on but those werent taken. Now i wonder what happend. And cherry on cake was crash on my dive to target turn. It is weird, anytime as I get back to fly this game gets more and more bugs in plane i wan't to fly. This kinda sucks. Edit: just yesterday (5.6.) I was finaly been able to get my rusty skills to get plane started and wen't to test laser guided missles, which were working flawlessly. Finaly good news for me. Still startup is buggy at best (usualy INS alignment failes at point where it need to give me button to enter heading). I would like to see some fresh and updated startup guide, written or video so I can see if I maybe am doing something wrong.

Did laser got fixed by now?