Mel

Wags' Seal of Approval. That's it! I'm ordering one.

Thanks. I've had the Orion throttle base w/ F/A-18 handles for almost a year now and i'm very pleased with it. As i'm starting to learn the F-16 i'm considering getting the F-16 throttle handles. I just hope it doesn't take too much effort/time switching between the two setups.

If i'm not mistaken it uses the exact same Orion throttle base that's used on the F/A-18 throttle and that's also sold separately without grips, so it should still have the built in Idle and AB detents. Unless they removed those on the F-16 one, you would probably be able to use it with detents without the slide rail mounted. I checked the manuals on the winwing site: https://www.wwsimstore.com/static/assets/files/T2-ORION THROTTLE BASE-MANUAL EN V 1.0.pdf https://www.wwsimstore.com/static/assets/files/THROTTLE HANDLE OF F-16 H.O.T.A.S-User MANUAL EN V 1.0.pdf The Orion Throttle Base have detents from (Idle-thrust-AB) 15°-50°-15° = 80°. While the slide rail on the F-16 throttle, which seems to use the Orion Throttle Base, is 18°-44°-18° = 80°. Unless they removed the detents in the Orion base, i would think the rail detents and base detents wouldn't match up? In the F-16 throttle handle manual it also looks like the slide rail is obscuring the two mounting holes on the left side of the base, which could potentially make it harder to mount to a rig. If anyone has mounted the throttle to their deskmounts or rig i would be happy to hear about their experience.

Norwegian F16's having their last exercise in the Arctic Challenge Exercise before being retired and replaced by F-35's. https://tv.nrk.no/serie/dagsrevyen/202106/NNFA19060821/avspiller#t=14m56s

I can see that being a problem in some situations. I was more thinking about the hats and switches on the throttle grips, if it's hard to reach the front switches when in full afterburner, or if it's easy to push a hat-switch in the wrong direction when it's angled like that. I use a slide-throttle (TWCS) currently so i'm used to the straight movement.

I was about to order a Taurus throttle when i saw this. Now i'm a bit unsure what to get. Compared to the Taurus the Orion throttle seems more like a compromise with the shorter radius giving it a more similar arc movement to the Thrustmaster Warthog and Virpil throttles. For those who have the Warthog throttle, is the angle of the movement a problem when using the hats and buttons on the handles? When it's in full afterburner it seems to lean very much forward.

Some more info on the Winwing Orion throttle User Manual: https://www.wwsimstore.com/static/assets/files/T2-ORION%20THROTTLE%20BASE-MANUAL%20EN%20V%201.0.pdf A few videos of installation and operation: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Py4y1q7VS/?spm_id_from=333.788.videocard.19 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Da4y1p7na/?spm_id_from=333.788.videocard.2

The Founders Edition cards looks to have a good cooling solution. The partner cards seems to be priced higher and none of them seems to be using the reference cooler unlike previous series. I have a hunch the FE cards will be paper launches, and not just the 3090. A way for Nvidia to get the public awareness of quality cards at a specific price, while we might end up having to get more expensive (and potentially inferior)cards from partners due to low/no availability.

Keep in mind the 10900K (or any other available Intel CPU) does not support PCIe 4.0. I'm waiting to see AMD's lineup of GPU's before deciding, but right now i'm thinking about getting the RTX 3080 together with the Reverb G2, hoping that they will be a good match in (single player) DCS.

Throttle impressions:

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Another shot of the throttle together with the flightstick and desk mount:

Bought!

So, all the people with 1080 Ti's are finding it way out of their budget? ;). I'll admit it was a bit more expensive than i thought it would be, but i'll have to wait for reports on the build quality and performance before deciding. I'm looking to upgrade my throttle this year, and if this one is top quality i can stretch my budget a bit.

Hi, it looks like you've put a lot of thought (and money!) into your sim setup. I'm slowly building my own VR cockpit and i'm trying to get an optimal setup in the small space i have available. Till now i've just put the throttle and stick on the desk, but it's not very ergonomic, and now that i've started looking into getting an extension to use it as a center stick i need to find a solution that will work for me. I've been thinking about getting the WSP, but i'm concerned about the height of the middle mounting. I see you've sawed it off to get it as low as possible. If i'm not terribly wrong the warthog with a 15cm extension is 28cm from bottom of the base to the hand rest. A Gunfighter MCG pro is 31,6-34,1cm, so 3,6-6,1cm taller than the warthog. It's probably gonna be hard to mod it to get lower than you have it now (shortening the bottom part would probably require cutting and welding). Looking at cockpit pictures of planes like the F/A-18 and F-15 the sticks seems to be quite high above the seat. Other than that i've been looking to replace my office chair and have had a availability/price watch on pre-owned Steelcase Leap V2 for a long time. It seems like a nice chair, but it's not very common here in Norway, and shipping one from the US will add hundreds of dollars in shipping and also 25% vat on top of it all, making it too expensive to import. Is the chair swivel any problem when using rudders? I'll get some wheel-locks/stops when i get the rudders (which are in the mail right now, i hope :D) I've got a Jetseat KW-908 that i will mod with my own cushion to fit my new chair (when i eventually get one). The Jetseat really doesn't fit my current chair at all, and i've had to drag in a livingroom chair when i'm using it. Also looking forward to upgrade my throttle hopefully within the next 6 months. Both the new Virpil or VKB throttles looks interesting. Next up is getting some suitable decoration i guess :D