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That did the trick. Thanks very much guys. All fixed now.

I have built a few custom panels for a10c and currently run 3 separate bodnar BBI to connect to the pc. The issue I run into is that they all just identify as “button box interface” in dcs, ie with the exact same name and no differentiation between which one is which. It seems with each start up of dcs the button allocations also switch around requiring new configuration each time. I can’t seem to find anyway to effectively rename them so they each have their own ID. I’ve seen many people are using these and wonder if anyone else encounters the same or if I’m missing some basic configuration trick?

I can't even get the tracking software to open. Spent 2 days going through everything and since updating to latest Gemini just won't open. The controller is showing connected in devices and green light is on but something is preventing any of the software and services from opening. Checked all firewalls and antivirus, run as administrator, all permissions checked. Can't think of anything else.

Has anyone else had issues with leapmotion in windows 11? Since upgrading I can’t get the software to work at all. It basically doesn’t even activate. I cannot even open the visualizer.

I also have a 6900xt and the 5800x3d works wonderfully with it. Especially if you have tuned the 6900 a bit and are using openXR.

I agree with biggus. With a 5800x3d paired with your 2080ti you should be able to release some nice gains and get a good bit more out of your gpu in vr. Right now you are probably cpu limited in most cases with vr, so this should allow you to be gpu limited instead and push some settings further, especially for mp.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the x3d works "very well in my setup". With my 6900xt, I was previously almost always hitting the cpu limit first. So in my case it was a no brainer in order to release more from the gpu. Therefore the benefits are significant. I would suggest unless you are running at least a 3080/3090 or 6900xt then the gains will not so easily be found.

Its really interesting tines ahead in the world's of flight simulation. Vr sim is becoming more and more mainstream and starting to take real steps into commercial training. Indeed we are looking very seriously in our operation. The latest tease from NOR Platform is very interesting. Unrealengine UE5 has addressed the issues from previous versions and is aiming squarely at flight sim. The NOR platform appears to be initially aimed at commercial customers but reading between the lines and looking at the promo stuff they are taking some swipes at dcs and I'll be very surprised if they done release a consumer version in the fairly near future. They have identified the market is there and filled pretty much only by dcs. With their far more modern graphics and rendering engines, multithread and multicore as well as a more flexible development system, the performance will be considerably better. My big fear is that ED plans and development for a new engine may already be too late. If NOR releases a consumer version I'd be willing to bet there will be a large defection of customers to the more modern, better performing system. I love dcs and really want them to be the leader. If they are not already nearing a new engine and a direct competitor steps in offering a better performing product, this will only be bad news for dcs and ED and ultimately the loyal dcs users. Revenue will drop and further development will be very hard as new customers will dry up and older ones start to move away. The sharks are circling right now and closing in. The next 12 months will see more and more rapid development from UE, NOR, META and others who will be able to utilise new engines and build from the ground up. Everything is now very much aimed at VR implementation and maximum effective use of hardware.

Very good for passmark. My experience directly comparing directly back to back my overclocked 3800xt to the 5800x3d in dcs is vastly different and is a very significant improvement especially in mp. I guess it all depends on how and what you test for. One thing I know for sure is the x3d works extremely well in dcs.

60hz flicker for me makes it totally unusable. I've tried several times to see if I can get used to it but it just causes headaches. It makes me wonder of there has been some changes in the production of the g2 and perhaps its earlier models where this is more noticeable. I got mine literally the day they launched. I wish I could get it to work. Possibly there could be other settings that exasperated it. It's especially noticeable for me in bighter areas such as sky and clouds.

Just got the chance to test in mp. Flying the apache in the Low Level Hell server and I have to say it was a huge difference. Previously I always had to dial down the settings and even then would get little stutters. Did a run now on the same settings as I use in sp and the fps never dropped. As smooth as it was in sp. Very impressed.

Error 2 is a runtime error. I was getting this when I installed again for a while and not 100% sure how I fixed it. Try uninstalling and reinstalling the toolkit and make sure your openxr for Windows is latest version from the ms store. The other possibility is one of the 3 files is corrupt. Check the bin folder see if the compiler is duplicated. Failing that remove the 3 files from bin and download them from new. I think someone provided a Dropbox link earlier. Then drop them in your bin folder again.

I wouldn't attempt to play 90fps myself. It was more for testing. I lock my fps normally to 45 with radeon chill. I wanted to just see how much overhead I had and get gpu and cpu times. Settings I use are 100% openxr resolution with fsr on in toolkit. In game all fairly high with shadows flat. Visibility ultra, textures high. I would say my more normal fps would be 60-70 if I didn't lock it. 90 was around 3000' over batumi in a10c. It won't maintain that for long.

It's an amd option in the amd adrenaline software.

Yep. Pretty much only fly Apache and a10c2. chill works like an absolute charm for me in both. Totally smooths out everything like mr should. There is a little ghosting out to the sides but to be honest if urn flying at 100’ and look out the side that’s how it looks anyway. I tried chill at different fps. I can now hold a steady 70, so i tried 70, 60 and 50 but 45 is the absolute smoothest setting.

It was mentioned before, but for anyone using an amd gpu, be sure to set your minimum clock speed to 100 below the max clock speed via adrenaline software. I just upgraded my cpu and adrenaline had reset all the previous settings and I couldn’t understand why I was getting some jitters. Reset the minimum clock speed and all gone, back to total smoothness.

Great work @mbucchia. I cant say enough good things about all this. Love the latest version of the toolkit with the latest improvements too. You’ve saved/reinvigorated dcs for many of us.

I’m more and more impressed with this cpu the more I test. Today for the first time ever I managed 90fps in vr in the a10c from and around batumi without sacrificing much on graphics settings. Running 100% resolution in openXR and some fsr in the toolkit. Stays above 70 with cpu frametimes in single figures most of the time. I’m now gpu bound, which is no bad place to be and no complaint given I’m using a 6900xt. The most notable improvements are those times when I’d expect fps to tank, it just doesn’t and remains totally smooth. For me this was often doing low level gun runs in the a10 and flying close to the ai vehicles or firing off mavericks. Now, not a jitter. It’s totally stable. For me it’s a no brainer now and very clear this works extremely well for my setup.

I have found pretty much all the Radeon graphics settings to be ineffective. Frame rate control doesn’t work for me either. FSR seems to work well for me in openXR. As long as I don’t overdo it there is a negligible image decrease at 85-90% but a fairly decent performance gain. The absolute must for me with my settings is Chill. This locks the frame time on the gpu to 22ms which gives a constant 45fps. Then as long as my cpu is producing better than 22ms times there is no microstutters and it’s perfectly smooth. I tuned the gpu with graphics settings that guarantee better than 45fps then just tune the stuff that affects cpu to keep it within as well. I can see all of this nicely in the openXR display. Easy to monitor and see what’s going on.

After a bit more testing the benefits are showing now. My previous test mission was very gpu intensive as it was lots of shadows, sunrise, cityscape etc, so obviously always gpu bound and still is. I just tested a super carrier with a hornet and full deck with as much ai as can be packed into the ship. This was something I could not do before without a lot of stutters. Now it’s rock solid locked at 45fps chill and not a stutter in sight. Clearly the x3d makes a big leap for me in being able to process other units and ai. Definitely impressive. Even taxiing around on deck between all the other aircraft, not a single fps drop.

So now i jumped on the boat too and picked up a 5800x3d to pair with my 6900xt. Did a quick test a10c Beirut sunrise. I did not notice a huge difference and it does seem to run a little hotter than my 3800xt. It's definitely less small microstutters although I always use radeon chill to keep 45fps. Then it's very smooth. Low over Beirut it's still dropping to 40 at times and cpu times gonup to 23-29 ms. I think I need to look at the tuning and as I had to download a new bios update, some of my settings may need to be looked at. I haven't tested mp or liberation yet.

Thanks. I’m still a little lost as to how the whole cache is so effectIve given the clock speed is so much lower. I have 64gb 3600hz RAM. I have my 3800xt oc’d to 4.3 so it feels a bit weird to go backwards on speed, but it appears the stats on performance speak for themself, so how it gets there is unimportant.

Damn you @nikoel. You just convinced me . You are costing me a lot. As I am also on a 6900xt our systems are pretty much identical. This was exactly the kind of info I needed. They actually have the x3d in stock in my local shop, so I think I’ll pull the plug. I was on the fence waiting to see some real feedback on appreciable gains. Coming from a 3800xt it sounds like it will be worthwhile. What are you using for cooling?

Fixed it. I still had the 3 files on my PC sonwas able to use them from a few weeks ago. Seems the installer was the broken bit.

Yeah i used the installer. Totally screwed rhibgs for me. I can't find the github files anymore only installer. The link u posted doesn't seem to work for me.