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Does this mean that you did not have stutters before this update? Have you also done the firmware update for the headset?

They said there's less CPU usage. If that's correct then that's positive. The Utility tool inside Pimax Play with FPS counter, CPU usage, GPU usage, VRam og Ram usage .. this is actually very nice! FOV - Small or Normal - some might find the Small FOV nice for getting some extra FPS. Nothing that I will use, but... others might like it. They say they have improved tracking for Crystal Light and Crystal Super. Personally I have not had that much trouble with tracking with my Super - but a lot of people say they have. How much improvement? We'll see.. Better combability with UEVR - that's nice for us who like to use the headset for other things than just DCS. New firmware, fixing USB connection issues.. hope it works for those who have problems. I thinks this is not that bad. These are all nice improvements I think. I have NOT tried this update and firmware update, so for me this just looks good on paper.

Good point about the render resolution! The general brightness slider I haven´t done much with. Think I have it at 99% or something. But the sliders for left and right eye brightness helped me. I reduced them to -1 (or was it -2? I don´t remember, Ím not in front of my PC right now). Do you experience the same washed out colors in other VR games with your headset? I had the most trouble with DCS.

I think this is interesting… The Ultrawide Super is supposed to be 50PPD just like the normal Super. If you feel that the 50PPD version don´t give you enough clarity I don´t think the 57ppd will be much different for you. I have the normal Super - 50PPD. And it´s amazingly clear and sharp. Yes, also in the distance. In racing games too. About washed out colors.. In DCS try lowering gamma to 1.6 ish or thereabouts. And in Pimax Play lower brightness for both Left and Right eye to -1 (or -2). That fixed it for me.

Thanks for the info!

The tests I have seen mentioned that the sweetspot and edge to edge clarity was smaller on the 57ppd Crystal Super than on the 50ppd Crystal Super. I have the 50ppd Crystal Super and also still have my Crystal OG. Both the field of view, sweetspot and edge to edge clarity is better on my Super than on my Crystal OG. So - your observations seem to fit with what I have read and seen in reviews about the 57ppd. Personally, the 57ppd does not make much sense to me. Much smaller field of view, smaller sweet spot, the 57ppd is only in the center and so on... When you get to 50ppd, like on the first Crystal Super (that I have), I thin that any ppd value above that gives diminishing returns, and not worth sacrificing the nice field of view and edge to edge clarity of the Super 50ppd. The OG is still a nice headset. (The only thing I hold against the OG Crystal is the battery). But my Super 50ppd is a real step up in all areas. As for the night missions - I haven't spend much time in that. But the Crystal Super (at least the 50ppd - but I think the 57ppd has the same panels) can show nice dark areas. So, it's a DCS problem I think. I have played other games, like Skyrim VR modded with a light mod that makes the nights and caves truly dark -unless there's a light source, and it's dark... and when there are torches and lights in the caves and such, those lights fit in real good I think. In DCS you have to lower the gamma, and in Pimax Play you have to find the place where you adjust the brightness for right and left eye separately, and turn that down to -1 or -2 - for both eyes of course. The overall brightness slider I haven't really done so much with, if I remember correctly. Don't trust the auto IPD. On my Super I get the best results when setting the IPD about a 1 or 2 above what the headset thinks. But that would be different from person to person I think. Hope you can return your headset without any problems.

No idea. I haven’t tried looking for it there.

Interesting! I have the 9950X3D - but I am bit slow... so - Should I disable the CCD with the 3D cache? Or should I disable the faster frequency CCD without 3D cache? I don't have process lasso, but I believe I can do this in the bios. Would the 9950X3D also be faster in DCS VR if I just make sure DCS is running on the right CCD (by using process Lasso) and let other tasks, like Pimax services and chat programs, run on the other CCD? Or does one CCD need to be switched off?

Nice that MSFS 2024 (beta 4) has gotten better in VR. But I find it real puzzling how he (and other youtubers) talk about butter smooth performance when they are getting framerates in the mid 30's - like in this video. That is just ridiculous. As long as you don't hit the refresh rate of the VR headsets refresh rate you get judder. Stable smoother judder now?? Perhaps. But it is still not butter smooth performance. I have flown MSFS 2020 since release, though it didn't get VR support before sometime later. And also MSFS 2024. I have used HP Reverb G2, Quest 2, Quest 3, Pico 4, Pimax 8KX, Pimax Crystal, Pimax Crystal Light, Pimax Super in both simulations. Three different PC setups during that time... And judder judder judder - most notable when looking out the sides or when in a turn. MSFS 2020 was way better than MSF2024. But still judder unless I tuned everything down until I hit 72 fps or 90 - depending on which refresh rate I had set for my headset. "You don't need that high of a frame rate in Microsoft flight simulation" I hear many of them (youtubers) say. Well, you do need 72 or 90. And, I got that in MSFS 2020 with my OG Crystal with correct tuning, then no judder, no stutters. And also in MSFS 2024 Upate 3 (I am not using beta) - and eventually with the Super too - by tuning it correctly and sacrifice some resolution and graphical effects. I wish Pimax would fix Smart Smoothing. That would make it easier - just needing 36 or 45 fps...

The 5090 system. It has a better CPU and more RAM too. The 4090 system is not used these days as much, I keep it for now and it will probably end up as Christmas present for my son. But OG Crystal is a good fit for the 4090 system

I have RTX 5090 and I run my headset at 72hz in DCS. I'd rather use that than loose details or clarity and getting 90.

I have incredible performance and visual quality with Quadviews. And I see you have the same CPU and GPU as me, and even more system RAM. I wonder how our experiences with Quad views are so different? I can not live without it It might cause issues at night time, but I have yet to do any real testing with that. Hope you enjoy your Super. Try other things than just DCS too, it's an amazing headset

I think there's an issue with DCS and Quadviews. The change in light/brightness and contrast can be seen also in day time with quad views and the big square outline in the foveated area - which is discussed elsewhere. Not so obvious, but it is there. Overall, in DCS, with or without Quadviews, I have to lower DCS gamma setting to 1.9 or else things look too blown out during daytime. I have not played much night time yet with my Super. I have been playing other games, like Le Man's Ultimate racing, and it looks good when driving at night. Also Skyrim VR with a Light mod that makes the nights and caves truly dark unless there are light sources nearby, also look good. They don't use Quad views. So I don't think it is hardware related. I will check out iRacing, which use Quadviews, and see what happens there during night driving-

Thanks for explaining. And, in my house the Buttkicker absolutely does make noise downstairs. Norwegian wooden house from 2015. Not sure how much problem it would be in a concrete building.

Nope... I'm kinda slow sometimes.. And I am sure your advice is well appreciated by those who do need it, seriously But, 20% usage by the Pi service is a lot I think. But since my experience in computer programming is from programming The Vic 20 from Commodore in Basic, in the early 80's, I don't know much about how different programs use different CPU cores. For example, will the Piservice app always use the same core unless you use Lasso, or is different from system to system (even if they would have the same CPU I mean), or can it be different on the same system from time to time? I know this is way outside what we are discussing here, but.. For example, NOW I don't have problems - maybe that is because on my system Piserver is not on the same core(s) as DCS? And could I experience booting up my system one day and suddenly Piserver has moved over to the same core as DCS and impact performance? I have tried so many "Voodoo, Karate, Judo and Ninja" tricks on my PCs over the years to get them to run flight simulators better... And many have just been placebo when really looking in to it. Your advice is obviously NOT placebo since it's easy to see that they were on the same core and things improved when spreading them. I think I can remember, after the Falcon 4 launch in 1998, I also became semi-religious for a while, saying prayers hoping Falcon4 wouldn't crash... That was a nasty one...

That part, yes. But since I dont't experience stutters, freezez and such now... what do I gain?

Nice! But Voila what? I mean, did you experience any practical improvement during gameplay? Higher FPS? I installed process lasso on another PC than this one some time back. All it did was leaving me confused. Not sure what I was actually doing or if it improved anything at all. So, I uninstalled it. That was on an Intel CPU based PC. This new here is AMD 9950x3D. Not sure if it (lasso) will actually do anything. I feel I have smooth gameplay, I don't experience stutters with my Crystal Super. If it helped you - good.

Thanks, it works now after enabling it.

Nice! Thanks. Will check it out.

@Calvin.Pimax Hi, I am on the latest Pimax Play, 1.42.1, and latest Crystal Super firmware. If you read my post above this I am rather happy with these updates. But - the last few days I can not use the volume buttons on the headset to access menus any more. Pressing the Volume up for 4 seconds (or even more) does not work to get to menus. That was a nice feature to have because that let me just keep my hand controllers safely in the box The volume buttons do work for adjusting the volume with short presses. Is this a known bug?

No image with Quad views? Try disabling Open XR Toolkit if you have that installed. Here’s a word from the guy who made both: Not sure if this helps you. Worth a try? And I am sorry to say that with your cpu and gpu you will have to make rather big compromises to get DCS run well on the Crystal Light. By running well I mean either stable over 72fps using 72hz in the headset or 90fps in 90hz mode. But it should be possible to get it run a bit better than now anyway. The Tallymouse video mentioned is also good.

That is disturbing to hear… how long time does it usually take before it happens? Maybe you already have answered this, but is it only in DCS?

My nVidia driver is from before the Summer I think..

My experience with the 1.42.1. PP update and Firmware update today. What kind of wizardry is this?? I did the 1.42.1.177 update of Pimax Play. And I updated my Pimax Crystal Super firmware from 1.07 to 1.08. As some of you might I have read here I have been a bit nervous about this because I think that my Crystal Super was running pretty well with 1.40.4 Pimax Play version and the 1.07 firmware for the Super. And I hate to break things. Especially the firmware update made me a bit nervous. And for a minute or two there right after the firmware update I was extra nervous. Pimax Play started to complain about USB connection - which was a problem that my Crystal OG used to have in the beginning "back in day" with my old PC. (But that became better and was eventually solved). But my Super never has had that issue before on this new PC. But I thought - "oh no..." My Super headset is bricked! And looking into the headset ... just a big yellow or green square that seemed to move randomly around. I unplugged the headset, re-started my PC and now it seems like it is working like before. I have not tried DCS yet. But I did a few short flights in MSFS 2024. Struggling with frame rate in MSFS 2024 with this headset is... as expected. So what I did some days before this Pimax update was to set Pimax Play at 0.75 resolution. Use Quad Views inside MSFS 2024, edit the MSFS 2024 config file to lower the Quadviews area from 0.5 to 0.3, and also with DLSS at Quality settings I have managed to get 72 fps with almost no stuttering either! Maybe not in the big cities and biggest airports, but elsewhere at least. Now - that fluidity has come with a price. Going from 1.0 to 0.75 in Pimax Play still gives a fairly big resolution, but of course it is not as sharp as 1.0/High setting. And then DLSS on top of that... But I have preferred the fluidity with 72 fps. When I read about people saying they have good and fluid experience with 35-40 fps i MSFS 2024 I just don't understand what they even mean. It's horrible. Anyway--- not as sharp then with these settings I had. But fluid. And still sharper than with my Quest 3 anyway - and much bigger FOV. Now here comes the 1.42.1 update... and I didn't know it applied 0.6 sharpening inside Pimax Play by default. So when I started up and got into the cockpit of the Comanche in MSFS 2024 I almost fell out of the chair. Everything was sharp! I thought I had forgot to set DLSS on, or forgot to lower the resolution in Pimax Play - but I had done all that. And secondly - the sound of the Comanche aircraft was really loud! I had to turn it down a bit. (It was not like this before the updates today). And that I am fairly sure is because of the 1.08 firmware update I also did - which I think I read was improving sound. So it sounded great, things were really sharp and crisp - almost too much - I think I will reduce the sharpening a bit. Right now it's sharper than my OG Crystal at 1.0 and no DLSS. That is my first impression. And it's so sharpened that I think it looks a bit over sharpened. But that's good. I can always tune it a bit down. And it's fluid at 72fps, stable outside the big cities. So, this sharpening feature - I really like. And I can't wait to try No Man's Sky in VR. I have to use DLSS there to get the performance, but there seems to be no in game sharpening there. And of course DCS later. Thanks Calvin and the team. Hopefully I won't run into trouble later on

What firmware on your Super? And what Pimax Play version?