LowRider88

Firstly, Thanks very much Razbam for the recent update to the FM, around May. I am once again completely addicted to the MiG-19. It is great to see the maneuvering graph screenshot examples shared in this forum, where we can see the FM lines more or less match the true lines. The only hope I have now is that the 19's Fowler Flaps can be adjusted so they do not retract at such a low speed. The manual says that the flaps should retract around 797 km/h, but currently they retract around 500 km/h. Also, the book "Clashes" from Marshall L. Michel III also references (pg.189) feedback from US pilots who tested a Pakistan 19 and states the maneuvering flaps set to 15 degrees (take off setting) would increase rate of turn below 460 knots (which is about 800 km/h). For me, when flying the 19 in game it feels I can only do a very tight turn with the flaps extended only after I drop to near landing speed. Otherwise I have to fly an energy fight. The 19 is great for being one of the few jet fighters (I can think of) with fowler flaps and so can have a turn performance near the smaller MiG-17. This seems to be a fairly easy change to make. Would it be possible to add this for the next release?

Wow. You still here? Don’t you have anything more meaningful in your life? Every time you open your mouth you spew stench. It’s like you fart with your mouth. So repulsive you are, you are among the few dorks here who are the reason I hesitated so long to take part in this forum, and why I also have lost interested in it. You should keep in mind not everyone in the forum is a loser pay for free multiplayer alumni who has no way of self esteem but to crap on strangers. Some of us are actually in the business world and are accustomed to mature conversation. You can pat your self on the back and take it as a victory that I leave. Fortunately for me I have other interests in life. But that is just sad, that you need this as an ego boost, because you have nothing else in your life. You talk like you think you can fool everyone into thinking you are from the street, when we all know you are a sim nerd like everyone else. 032186? As in 1986/03/21? Why, that would make you, 34?! Yeesh, dude, I stopped talking like a wannabe try hard when I turned 19. You are way behind in life. I suggest you take a personality course, because the longer you stay this way the more nothing will change for you. No where did I specify a particular tube. So stop putting words in my mouth. Your farty words belong in your own farty mouth.

Are you suggesting it is possible to rebreath from a breathalyzer, or spirometer? If so, I was not.

Hey Gripes323, Thanks for your feedback. No, I wouldn't waste time here trolling. That's spare time better spent enjoying DCS. I was being serious, but apparently I was the only one, as this is not the right audience for out of box ideas, or innovation of any kind. I am all for new ideas to improve immersion, and this was just one I thought I could share. The main point was, currently you can black out in the game and there is no way to control it, except to relax your maneuver to wait to wake up. But you are correct, I don't need to dwell on this any further. If it reaches the perhaps tiny percentage of like minded people on this forum open to new ideas, and if it ever becomes a thing, or helps to spawn new ideas, then the thread will have served its purpose. I prefer not to use VR at the moment, because so far there is no evidence that it does not cause long term vision problems, as the tech is still relatively new. So I stick to TrackIR.

Okay, Thanks for these details Northstar, I will check again later today, as I am still on 2.5.5. Well, just hoping they do something to improve the F-5 AI wingmen combat capabilities.

I couldn't be bothered to learn you lame wannabe slang.

If you don't like it, then don't read it. Problem solved.

Good for you, no one is pointing a gun to your head.

If no one agrees with this idea then that is fine. Then this is not the right audience for it. What is even funner is someone who wastes over 3 years of his life bickering with others on useless theoretical threads, using limited proof, and getting shot down by everyone else.

Well maybe the forums were boring and weren't worth reading before because there are too may impatient, close minded, nay sayers harping about feature requests they want right this instant.

Even better. The the idea is for a Spirometer that can in the future be integrated to DCS for controlling backouts. Never heard of it before. Good to know it fits the idea even more. I've been speaking english for 44 years, so your assumption is incorrect. There are others on this thread who I would sooner question in terms of communication ability. If you inhale, hold your breath, and push, over time does not your face turn red? What causes the face to turn red? Yes, in the context of air combat, when pulling Gs. Yeah, so? What's your point? Did I argue against all this? The G suit constricts against the body, making less volume below for blood to flow, and helps to keep more of the blood in the upper body. What are you getting at? Yeah, that is why this idea is to simulate what could be simulated with an off the shelf breathing device. The inhale, the exhale and the pressure. Not the G-suit. You are complaining that the idea doesn't somehow cause the actual blood to pool around like the real scenario? Do you have a better idea? I know exactly what I am trying to achieve by this suggestion. Unless you have a better idea simulating this, this provide a way for simmers to overcome G blackouts in DCS. It may not simulate the physiological intricacies of the real situation. How can it for a device under $100? And for now, who cares if it doesn't? With this idea, simmers can practice breathing control, and timing. That to me sounds like a new fun option to try in the future.

Wow, that sure is off topic. Go ahead, no one is stopping you.

Okay, I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or just being illogical. Yes, there is more to it. What's your point? To simulate the real thing would cost vastly more than what I was suggesting. So for you it is all or nothing? Then why bother playing a sim? You can do what the other guy said and get on a real production fighter plane. No one said you had to have the tube in your mouth the entire time. That's why I mentioned the mic comment, remember? Because I would assume you go from one to the other as the game play requires. What real fighter pilot is able to chat with his wingmen, while hiccing? Yes they are breathing into a mask. Which is connected to a tube. Which they do for hours. You are getting squeamish about minor technical differences, when the whole point of sim is there are differences because you can't just jump into a real life production fighter plane.

Okay sure, but I wasn't.

I won't comment any more about him. From what I've read, it is just too creepy.

That is why I made the comment about calibration. Also hiccing is pressure against a closed airway. This idea is about blowing into device, which is not closed.

As you know, a breathalyzer is used to take in your breath, and based on the amount of alcohol particles you blow out, can determine the alcohol content in your breath as a way of determining how drunk you are. Previously only available to police, any one can buy one online now. My idea was a way for the flight sim to gauge how much pressure you are able to build up from hiccing. In real life, as I understand it, you inhale, and close your airway, and apply pressure as if you are exhaling, without exhaling. This pressure causes the blood to pool to the extremities, but since a real fighter pilot is wearing a G-suit, the blood has no place to go but to the head, keeping the pilot from blacking out in high G maneuvers, when the blood would pool to the feet otherwise. Since on our limited flight simmer budgets we cannot afford to fly a real production fighter jet, or a G suit, a possible step in the direction of closer simulation may be if we were able to let our flight sim gauge how much air pressure were are able to push. Rather than push against a G suit, we could "push" or breath into a breathalyzer that has a USB connection to the sim. But I think you understood all this as you made the joke about the air pump.

I am not talking about ID2020, but Thank you very much for bringing that to everyone's attention. I never play in multiplayer, so I am not connected to the internet. Even if I was, this idea is not about recording with a mic. People are using mics all the time in DCS. Any youtube video will show them doing this and they are not concerned about biometric tracking. Even if they are concerned about biometric tracking, I doubt even Bill will care how often we breath in and out in the context of a flight sim. The mic comment was separate. I only mentioned it as a logistical problem if anyone actually found interest in implementing a mock G breathing system.

I was thinking the same joke as I wrote it. I can take a joke from you, if it was in sincere friendship. I don't see myself as sensitive, and will reply back to those who are only here to criticize others with childish jargon.

Okay, Thanks

I haven't played the missions that come with it yet, but I think you are right since, I think I read elsewhere that others had to purposely open up the out of box missions and change all the skill levels to Average or High, just so it was flyable. I totally agree with you Northstar. Oh, I didn't mean that you were hijacking the thread. I was just clarifying the distinction I thought was there. Okay I see. You may be right. I see the AI MiG-23 and Su-22 never sweep their wings. Maybe that is because the 3Ds never had that animation, or maybe as you say those as well as the flaps are never used in what seem to be simple scripts. If this is the case, which I hope it is not, at the very least, I am hoping they can then just adjust the AI maneuvers overall for the AI F-5 so that it better reflects the maneuverability. Of course the animations would also make it more true to life.

As I understand it, you inhale and bear down. This pressure pushes the blood to the head.

Nothing better to say if no jargon? Good, go to sleep. Hope you can come back after you grow up.

Butthurt? You're the one who craps all the time from no prior instigation and tries to cover it all up by talking like you are cooler than you are. Better to grow up with affirming positive re-enforcement than coming from an abused background which you suggest by always looking for figures of fun. I don't need your lame advice on adjusting to the internet. Why shouldn't I reply to others comments and voice my perspectives, just because some like you try to push others out with oh so lame jargon.

What's your point? I will still continue to share ideas. ED can consider or disregard them as they choose. It doesn't harm anyone to share ideas, except maybe dark age people.