Kumabit Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I saw some guys in the Eurofighter discussion section saying that the JF17 is getting block2 version. Is that true or they were just making up BS? I would really love to see an upgrade on the JF17 TBH, especially on the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0op8ack Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 JF-17 current status is very close to block II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Floyd Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I would really love to see an upgrade on the JF17 TBH, especially on the engine. The upgraded engine is for Block 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiron Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I saw some guys in the Eurofighter discussion section saying that the JF17 is getting block2 version. Is that true or they were just making up BS? I would really love to see an upgrade on the JF17 TBH, especially on the engine. i think most of upgrades Gor for block III , Block II and I i think there is not much big difference A-Dart / PL-15 / IRLST / HMD goes for lucky Block III :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxwxl Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Basically, you've got the block 2 already. For block 3, who knows? It's not even entered service yet. Deka Ironwork Tester Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J20Stronk Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 We're still missing OBOGS and KLJ-7V2 (the non-AESA upgrade). It's still a Frankenstein'd Blk.1 to Blk.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) Block 2s also have the LED landing lights, and the 5000 kg payload limit increase. Even though after flying it there’s not many cases you ever would want to load more then 3500 kg. I suppose it’s possible for the radar differences to be something where no one knows what changed or what changed were components that would not affect its performance in our simulation. Otherwise ours is still pretty close to block 2 Someone here once said block 2 also got third radio for data link, but I haven’t seen anything “official” about it Edited June 16, 2020 by AeriaGloria Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang25 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Block 2s also have the LED landing lights, and the 5000 kg payload limit increase. Even though after flying it there’s not many cases you ever would want to load more then 3500 kg. Could that allow for carrying the heavier weapons like the GB6s and 802s on the outer pylons? Or is it still a structural limitation even with the increased payload weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) I’m almost entirely sure that is a structural limitation. It would allow bomb truck configs like 3 Mk-84 and four Mk-82 l, I believe. You can do that now it will just tell you way over payload and your tires will shred on take off Really probably not that useful, I’m sure the suspension requires a lot of stiffening for that upgrade to work Edited June 16, 2020 by AeriaGloria Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I think it is capable because the Block 1 pylons don't get it to MTOM. It only makes sense in the case that certain weapons are carried on the outer pylons that are currently restricted to the inner pylons (e.g. 4x GB6 or 802 as already mentioned). Is the wing strengthened thus "different"? That's possible. Do we know what the difference in basic weight is? Maybe that would shed some light? As I understood the 3rd radio, I thought it was an avionics update but it retained the same head so visually in the cockpit, no change? As it is now, the control panel on the left side for the radios is just a programmer. The actual "radios" are in the avionics bay. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Yeah but there’s not exactly a way to switch on a third radio with the panel for the R&S:) I don’t have any concrete info, but I know the payload increase was done after some extensive load bearing done on I think PT-05 or maybe 03. So it’s likely that it could be software or just a revision that says it is safe to load JF-17 that much. I have never seen anything about actual structural enhancements, I have never seen other weights specified, so if there was a change I would bet more money on software or just a certification change Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J20Stronk Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Man, I just wanna load dual racked bombs and rocckets/missiles on the inner pylons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Any chance we get IRS-T? New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiron Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Any chance we get IRS-T? i think it belong to Block 3 not 2 i read in Wiki that block 2 can launch Darter missiles but i am not sure about that also so i think no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Yeah wiki is wrong, but their is a lot of South African co operation with Pakistan. I wouldn’t rule it out. The block 3 proto type that has maidened has no IRST, and I have seen no one mention it, so I really think it may not be around until Block four or five. Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) I didn't see IRST mentioned regarding Block 3, either. HMCS, yes; AESA, yes. Also, it is already capable of slaving the TGP to the RADAR for AA visual ID, and IRST isn't as great as they claim it to be (anecdotal evidence). I did find this (with photo): https://quwa.org/2016/04/25/ideas-jf-17-block-iiis-irst/ It's appearing that JF-17 might become the de facto replacement for the F-16 in the future for PAF. This has been posted before, but worth re-reading: https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2020/01/02/china-touts-use-of-stealth-fighter-systems-on-upgraded-jet-for-pakistan.html Edited June 17, 2020 by Tiger-II Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxwxl Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Block3 is up to the PAF budges, friends.:D Deka Ironwork Tester Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Yeah, so I feel they will focus on AESA, it has a new HUD and maybe a helmet, but I’m pretty sure the AESA will be the main focus for block III. It also has the 3 axis fly by optics of JF-17B. and it seems to use an increased level ofcomposites I know everyone wants a kick ass plane, but PAF is still focused on replacing J-7, and then they will still have many Morages that need replacement, so I don’t think any of these gold plated features will be in their mind for a while. Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 It also has the 3 axis fly by optics of JF-17B. What's that? Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Fly by wire, but with fiber optic cables. Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Fly by wire, but with fiber optic cables. Oh, nice! Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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