peplum Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Thank you for your advises. Pep. Edited June 7, 2017 by peplum
smallberries Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 I have an ASUS ROG PG278Q and am very happy with it (27" IPS). When I did my research it seemed the majority opinion leaned towards IPS. Sure, when I first bought the monitor I checked for blacklight glow, and there is some in the corner, but in practice I never, ever, notice it. Good luck whatever you choose!
BitMaster Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Gsync is well worth the money if you can afford it. 1440p as well with the 1060/6GB. My Asus 27" is not IPS and I dont care too much as well I admit. IPS has better colours etc.. but this TN has 1ms ;) TN is faster in switching colours, IPS has the nicer colours, pick any one ! Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
David OC Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) I too went with the same monitor as BitMaster. https://www.amazon.com/SWIFT-PG278Q-27-inch-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B00MSOND8C There are mixed reviews around about this monitor, I have had no problems with it, the latest one is overclocked to 165Hz. https://www.amazon.com/PG279Q-2560x1440-G-SYNC-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B017EVR2VM/ref=bdl_pop_ttl_B017EVR2VM Gsync is very good, it would be hard to go back, same with the 144Hz, its not a major difference but if your PC can keep up around this Hz / fps plus Gsync things seem much more smooth and fluid, to me anyway. I went for fast, smooth and fluid, not nicer colours. I possibly would have gone for the newer IPS one if it was available, it's still only at 2560 x 1440, so not as hash as 4k on your system. - Edited June 7, 2017 by David OC i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link
Hadwell Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) I have the same PG278Q monitor as well, but i was really lucky and have no light bleed on mine, I was really surprised, and expecting some, after seeing pictures of others with light bleed, i mean i saw one with light bleed so bad it was like grey on the bottom two corners and black on the top two... i woulda RMA'd or just downright returned the monitor.... but i also bought a BENQ GW2765HT IPS monitor, but its 60hz 4MS, it has way better colour quality and much darker blacks. Edited June 7, 2017 by Hadwell My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Kayos Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Remember having high Hz (like 165Hz above) is only good if your graphics card can actually pull that off. With high settings most can't especially at high res. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
OnlyforDCS Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Unless you are a huge twitch shooter pro, i'd say go for IPS. With adaptive, or regular v-sync you won't notice any tearing and the color gamut and contrast is worth it for DCS. You will be able to spot, track and identify targets much easier. Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
Konovalov Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 For me IPS is a must. Photography RAW editing work I need the benefit of an IPS panel. Plus I don't play fast stitch style shooters. Flight sims and strategy games so My next monitor will be another IPS panel but with GSync, 34-35" ultra wide 3440 x 1440 resolution with 100-120hz refresh. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
Abburo Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 144Hz is a must have... G-Sync only if you will have above above those 144Hz. But yes, 144Hz and G-Sync if you can afford is far more better than 4k @ 60Hz and G-Sync. The image is more fluid on fast switchting monitors. I have opted for a Dell 27" TN, 144 Hz... for my son setup :). I am still on 4K but seriously considering to go back to 2k.... will see.... Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
BitMaster Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) It's well worth the extra price if you ask me. Never before one single device fixed so many issues with stuttering, tearing and gawd it is just sooo fluent and smooth. In contrast to what Aburo says, I think it also greatly helps to keep my flight fluent when I fly at 50-60Hz. That's when it really shines, fiftyish Hz over Vegas and I still enjoy fluent scenery..but yes...100-180fps is even better despite there are No-Sayers also, that turn down anything past 60Hz and Vsync. Each their own gadget Edited June 7, 2017 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Abburo Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Well... the refresh rate is more visible when you are looking around with your headtracker for example. Stable 50 FPS @ 60Hz is good enough, fully agree with you... but when you are turning your head the scenery is blurred until the end of head transition... well... a faster Hz monitor is compensating that transition quite substantially so that even some possible headaches are minimized. I can say in a way that could be similar with what VR did from 60 to 90Hz... I do speak based on my personal experience, owning 2 computer setups. I even go further and tell you that in I7 6xxx series with and GTX1070 and 2k@144Hz monitor runs and feels a lot smoother then an i7 4xxx series with a GTX 1080 and 4K @ 60Hz monitor (but played at 2k resoulion just for the sake of comparison). Both monitors are G-Sync TNs. Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
peplum Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) For just flight sim, 144hz is out of range .. My flavour go to glossy screen and there are rare. Maybe 4k are less matte than most of 23/24.. I test 27" 1080 yesterday. It really miss pixels, clearly for office work..I thought the still image rather dirty Today I'm considering a 24 1080 or a 27 4k (may be also 1440p). But I've a clear preference to the more glossy screens that are more and more rare. Edited June 7, 2017 by peplum
Hadwell Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 For just flight sim, 144hz is out of range .. My flavour go to glossy screen and there are rare. Maybe 4k are less matte than most of 23/24.. I test 27" 1080 yesterday. It really miss pixels, clearly for office work.. Today I'm consdering a 24 1080 or a 27 4k (may be also 1440p). But I've a clear preference to the more glossy screens that are more and more rare. why do you like glossy screens? they reflect everything... if you have an overhead light, then you get a huge blind spot where it just blots out the monitor... My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
peplum Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 The image really pops like on apple and other glossy screens. Where I am, I've no reflection problem. I prefer also them on TV with no problem.
Abburo Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 @peplum: this was not about the screen finishing but the characteristics that drives them. 144Hz will not be understood until is seen... Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
peplum Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Ok. Will have a look on this. Now I need to make my mind : 1) IPS / TN 2a) 24 / 27 inches 2b) 1080 vs 1440 / 2160p 3) 60 / 144 hz (not sur more than 60hz is required for just playing games other than FPS) 4) G-sync also an expensive plus Max budget up to 400€. Edited June 7, 2017 by peplum
Hadwell Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 keep in mind that DCS is a first person shooter, the only difference is instead of the 1st person guy walking, he's sitting... so higher framerates make the same difference in a flight sim as a walking sim... the big difference is, and the reason people say high framerates don't make as much of a difference in flight sims, is the majority of the time you're doing things that don't require high precision and timing in a flight sim... probably more than 99% of the time you can basically take your hands off the stick and just watch if you've got a good autopilot in your plane... but there's that 1% where getting a clean shot at someone with your guns, or getting a missile off just before someone else does... or try hovering in the huey or mi-8 at 50 fps, then try it at 144 fps, it's something i noticed right away after getting my 1080ti, that i can actually hover in the mi-8 now... My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Abburo Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 Ok. Will have a look on this. Now I need to make my mind : 1) IPS / TN 2a) 24 / 27 inches 2b) 1080 vs 1440 / 2160p 3) 60 / 144 hz (not sur more than 60hz is required for just playing games other than FPS) 4) G-sync also an expensive plus Max budget up to 400€. TN 27 1440 144 GSync Example: https://pricespy.co.uk/product.php?p=3390738 Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
BitMaster Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 100+ Hz and Gsync, you wont regret a penny spent ! Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
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