Flim Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Hey guys , I'm just wondering how the real ka 50 feels on the stick? Does the stick want to re-center ? Do the controls feel light or rigid? I'm sure someone here knows or talked to guys who fly this crazy thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
einar-st Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I believe the stick will want to re-center to the position you trimmed it to last. Other than that, I have no idea. It probably feels great :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM505 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 If you sit on your washing machine doing a spin cycle whilst playing, that's probably a start! :) Well, that's been my experience of fling wings in general - maybe having two rotors makes it better. I was very impressed to look very closely at the edge of the HUD, and especially at the wet compass up at the top of the windscreen to see them vibrating. Sorry for not actually answering your question though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
einar-st Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Good tip with the washing machine!! :D... Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Just referring to the feel of the cyclic, there are springs that will keep the stick centered at its last trimmed position. You can move it away from that position, and there will be spring resistance to give the stick "feel", in other words, resistance against your movement so you can feel what's going on. With the trimer pressed, there is no spring feel whatsoever, and the control is very loose. Same goes for the pedals. For the collective, the collective brake is similar to the trimmer, but it will not return the collective to the "last trimmed" position. With the collective brake on, it's difficult to move the collective, with it pressed, it's very easy, there is virtually no resistance. In practice, any movement of the collective goes in the order of: press and hold collective brake button, move collective, release collective brake button. Whereas the cyclic and pedals are often moved without holding down the trimmer button, this is not done with the collective. Oh, and yes, sit on a washing machine, that's a perfect description. In fact, we use it all the time where I work. (The term, not actual washing machines) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericinexile Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Feels like warm apple pie. Smokin' Hole My DCS wish list: Su25, Su30, Mi24, AH1, F/A-18C, Afghanistan ...and frankly, the flight sim world should stop at 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
congo Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Just referring to the feel of the cyclic, there are springs that will keep the stick centered at its last trimmed position. You can move it away from that position, and there will be spring resistance to give the stick "feel", in other words, resistance against your movement so you can feel what's going on. With the trimer pressed, there is no spring feel whatsoever, and the control is very loose. Same goes for the pedals. For the collective, the collective brake is similar to the trimmer, but it will not return the collective to the "last trimmed" position. With the collective brake on, it's difficult to move the collective, with it pressed, it's very easy, there is virtually no resistance. In practice, any movement of the collective goes in the order of: press and hold collective brake button, move collective, release collective brake button. Whereas the cyclic and pedals are often moved without holding down the trimmer button, this is not done with the collective. Oh, and yes, sit on a washing machine, that's a perfect description. In fact, we use it all the time where I work. (The term, not actual washing machines) This leads me to another question. What system does Kamov use to mount the transmission and rotor to the airframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flim Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Just referring to the feel of the cyclic, there are springs that will keep the stick centered at its last trimmed position. You can move it away from that position, and there will be spring resistance to give the stick "feel", in other words, resistance against your movement so you can feel what's going on. With the trimer pressed, there is no spring feel whatsoever, and the control is very loose. Same goes for the pedals. For the collective, the collective brake is similar to the trimmer, but it will not return the collective to the "last trimmed" position. With the collective brake on, it's difficult to move the collective, with it pressed, it's very easy, there is virtually no resistance. In practice, any movement of the collective goes in the order of: press and hold collective brake button, move collective, release collective brake button. Whereas the cyclic and pedals are often moved without holding down the trimmer button, this is not done with the collective. Oh, and yes, sit on a washing machine, that's a perfect description. In fact, we use it all the time where I work. (The term, not actual washing machines) Thanks man, I have a few thousand hours in airplanes, but when it comes to helos ( no clue). I was watching the youtube cockpit video while the pilot was doing some vertical maneuvers and it seemed the he was not trimming, plus the cyclic looked (not springy) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 This leads me to another question. What system does Kamov use to mount the transmission and rotor to the airframe. Not positive for the Ka-50, but most Russian helos I've seen use 8 "legs" that mount to 4 places on the deck and 4 places on the gearbox, so it looks sort of like a continuous "W" around the gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
congo Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Not positive for the Ka-50, but most Russian helos I've seen use 8 "legs" that mount to 4 places on the deck and 4 places on the gearbox, so it looks sort of like a continuous "W" around the gearbox. What form of dampening nodematic or LIVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan1-1 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Feels like warm apple pie. :megalol::megalol::megalol: SPARTAN1-1 Спартанец1-1 Dell XPS 630i / Windows 7 / Intel Core 2 Extreme CPU Q6850 @ 3.00 GHZ / 4 GB Corsair Dominator 1066/ NVIDIA 8800GT X 2 / Track IR 4Pro / X52 + Pedals Dell Studio XPS 1647 / Windows 7 / Intel i7 620 @ 2.67 GHZ / 4 GB RAM / ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 What form of dampening nodematic or LIVE. Don't know. Assuming no dampening at all, and just mounted directly to airframe (like Mil aircraft). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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