Pinefang Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Was flying a mission in ver 1.2.7 and the AWACS (magic) kept calling on the radio with Hawg 1-1 Magic bra 183 for 10 at 2000 flanking. Anyone care to decipher this communication for me so I know what is being said? Thanks
Nealius Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 BRAA is Bearing, Range, Azimuth, Aspect from your current location. "183 for 10 at 2000" means 183 degrees, 10 miles, 2000 feet (assuming you use imperial units). For "flanking", see this graphic: 1
Flagrum Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 BRAA is Bearing, Range, Azimuth, Aspect from your current location. Altitude :o)
kk0425 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Wouldn't they say flanking is more where the beam is in that diagram, also where it says flank AWACS would report as hot? And for drag they would report that as cold.
Pinefang Posted February 11, 2014 Author Posted February 11, 2014 So, how are the terms useful to me flying a CAS mission? I understand the altitude, miles and bearing but I'm lost to the rest of the info.
Nealius Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Altitude :o) Oops. I had the two As wrong the first time and missed one when I edited it to correct :p Wouldn't they say flanking is more where the beam is in that diagram, also where it says flank AWACS would report as hot? And for drag they would report that as cold. Cold can work for Drag. The terminology in the diagram is mainly for BVR combat. The DCS AWACS might say "flanking" for Beam and "hot" for Flank, but that's technically incorrect. Brevity docs all state that aspect is only given if other than Hot.
Maurs Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Pine, the BRA part gives you their position but not where they are going. The final A, aspect, lets you know where they are headed - and if you are in a vulnerable aircraft like a A-10, your ability to continue your mission might depend on whether or not that enemy CAP is on an intercept course with you.
Exorcet Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 So, how are the terms useful to me flying a CAS mission? I understand the altitude, miles and bearing but I'm lost to the rest of the info. The AWACS in DCS is pretty simple. It will basically just give you the position of any it finds as soon as it's detected, which means you can be flooded with information that might not be all that useful. You have to keep listening for something that sounds like a concern, like a nearby threat. AWACS doesn't prioritize its calls or direct friendly aircraft beyond giving friendly fighters the positions of enemy aircraft, which they will act-on depending on their mission. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
Gary M Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Pine, the BRA part gives you their position but not where they are going. The final A, aspect, lets you know where they are headed - and if you are in a vulnerable aircraft like a A-10, your ability to continue your mission might depend on whether or not that enemy CAP is on an intercept course with you. ^^^ This ^^^ As for the aspect, I'm not familiar yet with what 'AWACS' calls DCS makes but in the real world they will tell you if the bad guys are pointing at you (HOT), pointing away from you (COLD/DRAGGING), or flying a perpendicular course (BEAMING/FLANKING). Cheers! Gary
Pinefang Posted February 11, 2014 Author Posted February 11, 2014 Thanks everyone for your input I now understand the radio calls from AWACS in this instance. It definitely was Greek to me at first.
Shiwaz Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Really helpfull thread... Appreciated! O7 Asus z170 motherboard; Intel i5-6600K OCd to 4,5GHz; Corsair 32GB DDR4 3000MHz; ASUS Cerberus 1070 Ti; Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD; Schiit Valhalla 2 headphone amp w/ Bifrost multibit DAC and Sennheiser 650 headphones; HP Reverb; Saitek x65-F; TrackIR5
nerves Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 Great post never really understood it either. Thanks
Tvol Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 *performs thread necromancy* So, what does one do when AWACS says neither "BRAA" nor "bulls"/"bullseye"? Should you infer that they are giving you bearing and range from bullseye, or should you infer that they are giving you bearing and range from you, assuming that you were contacted directly by your callsign.
cronustr75 Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 "means 183 degrees" How we meause this degrees? What is the anchor? Nose or ass off my aircraft? In clockwork direction? Or counter?
Sarpalaxan Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 "means 183 degrees" How we meause this degrees? What is the anchor? Nose or ass off my aircraft? In clockwork direction? Or counter? It means that the target is in that direction in true heading. You have to convert that into magnetic heading (on the caucasus it's -6 for exampel) and then point the needle on your compas to that number. So if you are on Caucasus and AWACS calls out 6 you have to fly directly North.
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