Su-25 UB model...

[Trooper117]

I don't know if anyone here has seen this, but the attention to detail is superb... http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234934521-su-25ub-kp-masterline-148/

[Silver_Dragon]

very good model :)

[Chazz_BMF]

This isnt a model, this is ART!

[Griffin]

Unrealistic loadout but it's very pretty! Seems to be from our Su-25 pilot Mikhail Pavlov's squadron too.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

WOW!

[vanveken]

Very LAJA model

[Time 83]

Передняя стойка шасси и створки сплошная ошибка, можно было хотя б фото посмотреть перед сборкой. А так красавец.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Unrealistic loadout but it's very pretty! Seems to be from our Su-25 pilot Mikhail Pavlov's squadron too.

What do you mean by unrealistic load?

[Griffin]

The ballistics computer in the aircraft is old and limited. If I understand correctly, it only supports ballistic calculations for two type of weaponry (not including cannon and AAM).

IIRC it's possible to hang some "extra" ordnance but you could only use it in CETKA mode.

Different rocket types have different launch orders, for example some are fired inner pylons to outer pylons and some other rocket types might be conflicting with that order.

 

The control stick basically has a switch that lets you use the A2G trigger either for bombs or rockets.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=878298&postcount=2540

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

I don't understand your point? Are you saying the Su25UB can not use the AAM (I assume the abbreviation means Air to Air Missile) and cannon? The Su-25UB was a combat training variant of Su25. Thus the "UB" stands for "Uchebno-Boyevoy", combat trainer.

 

BTW there is no need for the ballistic calculation to fire the heat seeker IR missile.

[kripzoo]

I think he means you can only use two different type of weaponry besides of the cannon and aa-missiles. For example 4x fab-250, 2x s-25 rockets and the cannon & aa-missiles.

[Griffin]

Yes that kripzoo. Sorry for unclear explanation.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

OK. So, you are are saying that Su-25 and Su25B can not have more then two different types of weapons under the wings at the same time?

[Griffin]

That's what the Su-25 pilots say. Can't hang two types of rockets for example or you will have the same ballistic setting for both of them (thus you must use CETKA if you want to use them) and there will be a conflicting firing order.

You can't cycle weapons like you can in Flaming Cliffs. There is only one switch which lets you choose either bombs or rockets to fire from that trigger.

 

There are pictures (from airshows?) with Su-25's sitting on the ground with similar loadouts to the plastic model but they are what Russians call "pokazuha" - for showing off.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

That's what the Su-25 pilots say. Can't hang two types of rockets for example or you will have the same ballistic setting for both of them (thus you must use CETKA if you want to use them) and there will be a conflicting firing order.

What you are saying here is that, eventually, it is possible to use more then two types of weapons, but precision/effectiveness will suffer because the weapons computer can not handle it. In such cases, some of the weapons will have to be employed using CETKA. Well, that still makes it realistic to life load out, but may not be used due to the lack of precision/effectiveness. Thus, the model is accurate.

[Griffin]

Well sure could be, I don't know the nuances of the Su-25 weapon systems. However I still find it unrealistic despite being possible. It would be interesting to know how the gun pods with depression are operated for example.

Edited February 27, 2014 by Griffin

[Cali]

He did an excellent job on it!

[Dr_Arrow]

The model is truly beautiful and work of art. However, Griffin has a good point and the load-out is certainly not realistic for operational use. The computer can be set only for a single type of unguided weapons and a single type of bombs.

[RIPTIDE]

Remember also he's showcasing the model of the weapons themselves aswell.... real life technical restrictions aside.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

We are splitting hair here. While the "load-out is certainly not realistic for operational use", it is perfectly accurate in real life. Thus I give it 10 out of 10, short of using a vernier caliper to measure every measurable part on it to confirm the scale.