0utLAW Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Hi all, I'm am in need of some guidance/assistance with an issue that I'm having with DCS game and a recently purchased(today) USB touchscreen kit working together with two different monitors. The problem: Both DCS and the touchscreen require the "Make this my main display" option. The setup: Monitor 1 Acer GD235HZ is currently not set as "My main monitor" but, I would like it to act as the main monitor and display the DCS game. Monitor 2 Samsung 226BW is currently my secondary(but set at "Make this my default display") monitor which runs Helios and has a USB touch screen kit; http://www.amazon.com/16-Plug---play-Non-touch-Touchscreen/dp/B008QRZ7AM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1395724924&sr=8-2&keywords=touch+screen+kit The question: How to make the DCS game run on a monitor that is not the "Main display"? Please ask any questions if I wasn't being clear enough or if you need any more information. Thanks i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
0utLAW Posted March 26, 2014 Author Posted March 26, 2014 Am I safe to assume that judging by the the lack of response that this is either a real easy fix and I'm just a dumba$$ or, I did not provide enough information. :.( i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
Stevos758 Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Have you looked at this? It might help. I've only done 2 monitors so I'm not much help. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=101614 Facebook Ripp's Garage Tech LLC
cichlidfan Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 If your touch screen kit requires it to be used on the main Windows monitor, then you are probably out of luck as I don't think you are going to get DCS to display not on the main monitor. Actual touch screen monitors can be any monitor in windows (in my limited experience), otherwise helios would be almost useless. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
0utLAW Posted March 26, 2014 Author Posted March 26, 2014 cichlid- sad times in the kingdom :.( i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
0utLAW Posted March 26, 2014 Author Posted March 26, 2014 What if I were to use SoftTH? Could my setup work with this program or would I run into the same issue? i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
Sorin Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 I recommend this touch screen monitor, not much more compared with the touch add-on: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10140MN2341&vpn=UM.VT2AA.001&manufacture=ACER It works great for me with Helios.
cichlidfan Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 What if I were to use SoftTH? Could my setup work with this program or would I run into the same issue? I know pretty much nothing about SoftTH. The thought had crossed my mind but I did not know enough to consider suggesting it. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
0utLAW Posted March 27, 2014 Author Posted March 27, 2014 so is running DCS in windowed mode possible? i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
cichlidfan Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 I don't know if that would help but yes. In fact, you have to run it in windowed mode to use the exported viewports, AFAIK. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
0utLAW Posted March 27, 2014 Author Posted March 27, 2014 Cichlid- You are totally right. It slipped my mind. So if the game is in windowed mode shouldn't I be able to move it to another window? :\ i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
cichlidfan Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 I don't think so. Being in a window (at full screen resolution) doesn't give you the ability to move it from what I have seen (note that I have never tried to do what you are aiming for). ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
0utLAW Posted March 27, 2014 Author Posted March 27, 2014 Thanks for the input. Guess I'll keep digging. IT SHALL WOOOOORK!!!! :sorcerer: i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
0utLAW Posted March 30, 2014 Author Posted March 30, 2014 I even got a legit copy of Display Fusion which you can specify which programs to run on which monitor and that does not work either. :( Does anyone know of another application management software that actually works for this issue? i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
Gadroc Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 OutLAW the product description says multi-touch. Which means it should use the native windows capability of touch. If so use the setup steps here to associate the touch device with the appropriate screen.
0utLAW Posted March 31, 2014 Author Posted March 31, 2014 Gadroc, I'll have to double check my PC at home but on my system at work I checked the Control Panel and there is no option for "Tablet PC Settings". May be there will be an option for this on my home PC after the drivers for the touchscreen kit have been installed. Maybe :\ i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
0utLAW Posted March 31, 2014 Author Posted March 31, 2014 I did find the "Tablet PC Input Service". I can turn it on by doing a search in Windows for Services and scroll down to "Tablet PC Input Service" If it's not turned on automatically when I plug in the touchscreen kit and load the drivers then I'll turn it on and try your suggestions. I'll post the results after I get home. i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
0utLAW Posted April 1, 2014 Author Posted April 1, 2014 Gadroc, that's a solid negative on the tablet settings. I ran setup and hit enter on the keyboard but the touchscreen kit still defaults to whatever the primary monitor is set. On a side note I'm getting some pretty funny emails from the company over seas and I may post our correspondence. i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
SkateZilla Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Set the Mainviewport to run on the secondary screen. if it's 1080p screens set: Viewports = { Center = { x = 1921; y = 0; width = 1920; height = 1080; viewDx = 0; viewDy = 0; aspect = 1.777777777777778; } } I used to Run DCS on 3 Extended displays instead of Eyefinity to remove the Tearing problem. Downside is when you press PrintScreen for a Screenshot, it will only show a black screen for anything outside of the main screen. But I had my Center Viewport stretched across 3 extended displays, and I also had a center viewport on a specific side screen while leaving the main desktop screen blank. Edited April 1, 2014 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
cichlidfan Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 Won't that only affect everything, after you start a mission? Prior to that the menus, etc. will be hidden under helios (unless you start the helios profile real quick after starting the mission). ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
ilikepie Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 Check you screen set up in Helios, I use a touch screen overlay, which is just a USB touchscreen. Set the monitors up in preferences to the same as Helios . Ie screen one is..... Screen 2 is.....etc. I have found that when I update gfx drivers I have to do the screen dance. That is, disable my main screen (non touch) , set, and calibrate the touch screen then enable the main screen again and make it the primary again. If this seems vague, it because I have have just finished work and there is too much blood in my alcohol system. I maybe way off on this but Giz a shout if it needs clarifying , but from what you describe it sounds familiar. Action After Contemplation
0utLAW Posted April 1, 2014 Author Posted April 1, 2014 Cichlid- That's what happening now. Skate- My main/current primary monitor is an Acer GD235HZ 1920x1080 120hz My secondary monitor is a Samsung 226BW 1680x1050 60hz Here are some pics of how my setup is currently and how I want it to be. WINDOWS / HELIOS i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
TonyZ Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) I believe this may be what you want. Center = { x = 1921; y = 0; width = 1920; height = 1080; viewDx = 0; viewDy = 0; aspect = 1920/1080; } } GUI= { x = 1921; y = 0; width = 1920; height = 1080; } UIMainView = GUI not sure if it will work for you but it should allow you to tell the program which monitor to display the menu interface on Edited April 1, 2014 by TonyZ
0utLAW Posted April 1, 2014 Author Posted April 1, 2014 Here's an attachment of my current layout of the game and Helios. Acer "Main/Primary" on the left and Samsung/Helios(which I want to run the touchscreen on) on the right. Problem. They both want to be Primary. Skate- My .lua file is currently set like this; { Center = { x = 0; y = 0; width = 1920; height = 1080; viewDx = 0; viewDy = 0; aspect = 1.7; } } Should I just change x=-1920, or something like that? Remember monitor 1 on the left is 1920 and monitor 2 on the right is 1680. i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
0utLAW Posted April 1, 2014 Author Posted April 1, 2014 Also, two things. One, I would like to keep the Acer on the left and the Samsung on the right in the setup. Physically I will move the Samsung from the right position to underneath the Acer when playing A-10C. Two, did anyone notice the little project I'm working on in my Helios profile? i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
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