serpents head

[awdrgyjo]

I just flew the serpents head mission, and got shot down by a manpad. I was low level when I was hit, going full throttle. So, what have I learned, nothing really, if I done this mission again I would fly the same route, maybe with a few variables, so, how do I manage next time to get back in one piece.

[Blooze]

Fly above 11,000 feet to avoid their reach. See attached file.

Edited May 8, 2014 by Blooze

[awdrgyjo]

OK, will do, the mission briefing though, stated that low level was the order of the day, thanks for the reply.

[Arcto10]

Quick question here on the max height and range.

 

Lets take the Tunguska as the example vehicle.

 

It has a max range of 4.32 NM and height of 19685ft.

 

If I am at 20,000 (Not that I regularly go this high, but for arguments sake) feet it will only be able to hit me when I am directly above it, in theory?

 

1NM = 6076ft so if I am 3.32 NM away from a Tung I would be safe as long as my height added a third side to the 'triangle' that equaled 6067ft/1NM, correct?

 

 

Or basically:

 

 

Height squared + Range Squared = Minimum slant range before being in danger of lock/fired on?

 

I might be totally missing the idea here but said I would ask....I have not had a lot of sleep so the above may not be very articulate and I will no doubt get some form of bashing from someone over how idiotic it sounds :)

[Flagrum]

Quick question here on the max height and range.

 

Lets take the Tunguska as the example vehicle.

 

It has a max range of 4.32 NM and height of 19685ft.

 

If I am at 20,000 (Not that I regularly go this high, but for arguments sake) feet it will only be able to hit me when I am directly above it, in theory?

 

1NM = 6076ft so if I am 3.32 NM away from a Tung I would be safe as long as my height added a third side to the 'triangle' that equaled 6067ft/1NM, correct?

 

 

Or basically:

 

 

Height squared + Range Squared = Minimum slant range before being in danger of lock/fired on?

 

I might be totally missing the idea here but said I would ask....I have not had a lot of sleep so the above may not be very articulate and I will no doubt get some form of bashing from someone over how idiotic it sounds :)

To be honest, I could not really follow your calculations (and there seems to be a SQRT() missing somewhere :o).

 

But I think, the danger zone is a sphere, so max range would apply to the slant range. And as the max range for the SAM dimishes the steeper the aiming angle is, the shorter the slant range "SAM - Aircraft".

 

And also a word of advice: don't trust those numbers, always keep some slack just in case. If somewhere it is said, that max height is 19685ft, do NOT consider yourself "safe" at 20000 ft.

 

... just sayin' ... :o)

[Nate--IRL--]

I just flew the serpents head mission, and got shot down by a manpad. I was low level when I was hit, going full throttle. So, what have I learned, nothing really, if I done this mission again I would fly the same route, maybe with a few variables, so, how do I manage next time to get back in one piece.

 

Take more time to examine your target area from afar. Analyse it and then decide the best method of attack. If you spot Anti-air, use stand-off weapons, instead of bombs, for example.

 

Nate

[awdrgyjo]

If you fire the Tunguska horizontally, its range is about 26000ft, however if you fire it vertically, its range is about 20000ft, so roughly, if your 10000ft, and 2nm away, your just coming into range, no doubt there is a more accurate way of calculating this, but taking wind, temp, and air density into account, which will all effect the trajectory, its a quick way of doing the maths.

[Habu_69]

OK, will do, the mission briefing though, stated that low level was the order of the day, thanks for the reply.

 

Sometimes those intel guys blow it. Best to error on side of caution.

[ralfidude]

Don't forget, if you are in a even slightly elevated position above sea level... then your 20,000 feet is actually closer than that to the ground itself...