Force Feedback causing crashes in 1.2.8

[ANGST]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=123191

 

I am having the same issue , CTD loading missions, or selecting the controls menu in options

 

Unchecking the FF box seems to be working for me, but no FF :mad:

 

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[Flagrum]

What FFB joystick do you use?

[ANGST]

Microsoft Sidewinder2 Force Feedback. Windows 7

[ANGST]

DXDiag file

DxDiag.txt

[ANGST]

Help ??

 

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[panther494th]

i have a side winder2

the way i got over it is to power dump pc it still not right ic can lose ff at any time

[AtaliaA1]

i have a side winder2

the way i got over it is to power dump pc it still not right ic can lose ff at any time

 

 

Power Dump PC? Sounds like a wresting move to me. Pile Driver/Power Dump are these not the same thing?

[panther494th]

lol ok shut down and turn of pc at wall then press power button `for sec or to then turn on at wall and then start pc

Edited May 30, 2014 by panther494th

[Wolf Rider]

What you need to try is a 'Clean Restart" ie Shut down the computer normally and restart POST (Pressing the F8 key at start up) your system in Safemode... it tends to clear things out a bit

 

power draining your system by killing the power, takes about 30secs to fully drain the caps etc.

[ANGST]

So pretty much after trying many many different things and all the versions between 1.2.8 ans 1.2.11 , I got a new joystick and now am crash free

[Baal1606687932]

Hi, still same problem after loooong time, but I have two questions:

 

1. Is there anyone with SideWinder2 who has no problems with these crashes?

2. Is this problem on a devs' ToFix list?

[Baal1606687932]

Ok, I hope I nailed it.

 

In my case the problem was that the SideWinder2 was connected to the same external active USB hub as my TrackIR:

- When I did not run TrackIR software then I could go to the Control menu without any problems (repeated dozen of times: Run DCS -> enter Options -> enter Controls -> Exit DCS).

- With TrackIR software running DCS crashed on ~50% of tries.

 

This is probably caused by some power loses on USB hub ports. When I reconnected my TrackIR to different internal PC hub the problem disappeared (non-reproducible for about 20 tries).

 

You may check if it helps in your case.

[Lensman]

Ok, I hope I nailed it.

 

In my case the problem was that the SideWinder2 was connected to the same external active USB hub as my TrackIR:

- When I did not run TrackIR software then I could go to the Control menu without any problems (repeated dozen of times: Run DCS -> enter Options -> enter Controls -> Exit DCS).

- With TrackIR software running DCS crashed on ~50% of tries.

 

This is probably caused by some power loses on USB hub ports. When I reconnected my TrackIR to different internal PC hub the problem disappeared (non-reproducible for about 20 tries).

 

You may check if it helps in your case.

 

You are a genius:thumbup:

I was having exactly the same problem with the Sidewinder2. In my case I had TrackIR and Sidewinder on the main USB bus. I changed the Sidewinder to my powered USB hub and problem solved!

No crashes at all now.

Cheers Baal:D